Transmission Gully progress towards opening

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#2831581 13-Dec-2021 16:12

ripdog:

Bring back the ministry of works. At least when the job is inhouse, you can do proper investigations when a project goes tits up, and punish/fire those who made the mistakes. Plus the incentives are aligned better - no more incentive to inflate costs to extract more government money and thus make more profit.

I seriously don't understand how inserting a profit motive into the job of public works is supposed to improve anything or save any money.

A'hem, Clyde Dam.....

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#2831597 13-Dec-2021 16:31

Wasn't Clyde's problem a whole lot of shattered rock in the foundation that wasn't expected?

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#2831600 13-Dec-2021 16:35

Bung: Wasn't Clyde's problem a whole lot of shattered rock in the foundation that wasn't expected?

Fault lines, potential landslips, + generally crappyy Geotech conditions.

T/Gully apparently had a whole lot more earthworks than were originally expected too.

Basically when you stick a shovel in the ground, you really have little idea what you will find...

The Tasman District Council is finding this out with the Waimea Dam....

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#2831637 13-Dec-2021 17:32

wellygary: T/Gully apparently had a whole lot more earthworks than were originally expected too.

In a thread on Reddit, there is a claim this was a cover-up to hide the fact they'd spent a year building the road in the wrong place...

I'd hope not; but how would we know?

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#2831658 13-Dec-2021 18:07

jamesrt:
wellygary: T/Gully apparently had a whole lot more earthworks than were originally expected too.

In a thread on Reddit, there is a claim this was a cover-up to hide the fact they'd spent a year building the road in the wrong place...

I'd hope not; but how would we know?

The Auditor General would be onto that. You could do an OIA request but I would suggest the reddit post is fantasy

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2831758 13-Dec-2021 20:37

MikeB4: but I would suggest the reddit post is fantasy

Oh, 100% agree - my tongue was firmly in cheek; but maybe not obviously.

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#2831759 13-Dec-2021 20:38

Maybe 4 more months to wait now

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#2831765 13-Dec-2021 20:50

When I saw it wasn’t going to be completed by year’s end, I thought they meant it would only just miss. Not be pushed out to Easter!

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#2831796 13-Dec-2021 22:43

Dingbatt:

When I saw it wasn’t going to be completed by year’s end, I thought they meant it would only just miss. Not be pushed out to Easter!

Perhaps the thread title needs to be updated to "Transmission Gully is Not Nearly Done" 🤣

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#2831806 14-Dec-2021 00:15

I wonder how quickly they would have built it in China. It does feel like they have been building it for a very long time.

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#2831823 14-Dec-2021 07:11

I drive alongside the PP2O section at least twice every day at all times of the day and night.

If I've ever seen more than a dozen people working on the kilometers of road at any one time then I don't remember it.

Having lived half my life in Europe it just astounds me how long these roads have taken. I'm sure TG has its issues given the terrain, but PP2O is a different story.

There are huge sections I haven't seen anyone working on for weeks.

My old man worked on the roads and worked himself up into the office as a road designer. He said the lack of communication between departments doing different jobs often meant they'd design, build and surface a road only for it to be ripped up a week later to lay a drain pipe.

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#2831825 14-Dec-2021 07:15

martyyn: My old man worked on the roads and worked himself up into the office as a road designer. He said the lack of communication between departments doing different jobs often meant they'd design, build and surface a road only for it to be ripped up a week later to lay a drain pipe.

Vertical construction is even worse. There aren't "departments" just subcontractors with very little co-ordination by the main contractor.

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#2831961 14-Dec-2021 10:48

jamesrt:

how would we know?

You would drive up the new road 3km and then come to a 90 degree turn to the right and then 500m on a 90 degree turn to the left.

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#2832888 15-Dec-2021 15:11

DjShadow:

Maybe 4 more months to wait now

(Link to tweet from WK chairman Sir Brian Roche saying he now hopes for an Easter opening)

I'm hoping this is a tactical PR move and that we will see it sooner.

I follow NZTA quite closely on Facebook and they would frequently get grief about TG opening from the public on any post about delays on the old SH1 (now SH59) and the lack of information they were giving the public.

In November they succumbed to pressure and started posting weekly percentage progress updates for consents and safety test. They shot themselves in the foot when it quickly became apparent that they were moving at about 1-2% per week with about 65% to go, so the keyboard warriors (including myself) voiced their scepticism and disgust even more. Arguably justified as we can see now.

I guess Sir Brian's statement now relieves that pressure. If I was the media manager at WK I'd probably revert back to radio silence now, and just come up with some weasly responses to any mainstream media queries between now and Easter.

Meanwhile I really feel for Kapiti Coast commuters and any holiday makers forced to use SH59.

Sometimes I use big words I don't always fully understand in an effort to make myself sound more photosynthesis.

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#2832896 15-Dec-2021 15:25

The Road Construction company have published a new Flickr gallery showing an essentially completed road.... ( save some required asphalt at the M Crossing tie in.... )

https://www.flickr.com/photos/transmission-gully-motorway/

To my reading, its the company saying we did our bit on time... its the slowness of the regulators and councils holding it up....

(+ if you don't think it up to spec, you are gonna have to pay to change it )

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