Nissan LEAF - General

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#1916260 10-Dec-2017 20:50

I have a Bluetooth one that works with iOS. Bought online from NZ shop
https://www.stahlcar.nz/diagnostic-tools/obd2-tools/obd2-phone/st350-hybrid

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#1916262 10-Dec-2017 20:56

Thanks for the advice on OBD2 devices - good to know there are cheaper ones out there that do work fine. The car will be my wife's daily drive (mine in the weekends only!), plus I'm not going to get too analytical about this (more about watching battery health over time), therefore I'd rather not spend more than I have to.

I've bought this one here (about $21 including shipping), which is one of the ones mentioned on the LeafSpy Pro wiki page.

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#1917153 12-Dec-2017 09:25

jonathan18:

Thanks for the advice on OBD2 devices - good to know there are cheaper ones out there that do work fine. The car will be my wife's daily drive (mine in the weekends only!), plus I'm not going to get too analytical about this (more about watching battery health over time), therefore I'd rather not spend more than I have to.

I've bought this one here (about $21 including shipping), which is one of the ones mentioned on the LeafSpy Pro wiki page.

Looking forward to hearing how it goes. :-)

I'm not averse to saving money........My enemy is time. I tend to buy the first thing I see that's good enough (Job done!!). I probably save a lot of time (but waste a lot of money). :-)

I'm the guy who parks in the remote car parks and walks to the door because that's 15 seconds plus 30 seconds....and I'm in the shop....whereas others will spend literally minutes waiting for Nana to pull out of the car park near the shop door (and block traffic while waiting).....just be as close as possible. (as happened at Bayfair yesterday.....blocking all inward traffic for literally two minutes in the parking garage).

I'm not comparing parking with your very sensible purchase. More highlighting my own tendency to just do things rather than think about them as long as perhaps might be good for me in some situations.

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#1917328 12-Dec-2017 12:32

Re:

Linuxluver:

....tendency to just do things rather than think about them as long as perhaps might be good for me in some situations.

Part of the training I was providing on many occasions to newbies - telling them that in many enterprises people are going from "unconscious incompetency" (i.e. not even knowing what to do and whom to ask) through two other stages (conscious incompetency - now they know what to ask, conscious competency - now they know what to do but they would check their doings) to "unconscious competency" - at that later stage you do routine tasks automatically and you are always right... Usually that later stage comes with grey hair :-)

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#1917417 12-Dec-2017 13:43

Thought I'd finally register and thank Linuxluver and everyone else who has contributed to this fantastic thread. I read it all which inspired me to take one out for a drive, armed with a pile of knowledge gathered here and some specifics I wanted to experience first hand.
I ended up re-reading sections of the thread, watching several hours of YouTube videos and tripple checked my calculations after hearing repeatedly that repayments can be cost-neutral when you dont have normal fuel and servicing costs.

I'm now delighted to own a grey 2015 "S" which I bought on the weekend.

For anyone who is on the fence and/or weighing up getting one like I was, I can honestly say that I've gone from 7-8L of BP98 per day to 8-10 kWh on my 72KM daily commute idling along in Wellington traffic.
With special nightly rates for Wellington EV owners (Flick Electric), my daily commute costs alone have dropped from $18 to around $1.50 with other priceless benefits like no emissions, noise, heat etc.

Thanks again everyone, I don't think I would have made the decision quite so easily to test one, let alone buy one if it wasn't for all of the great information and experience shared above!

Cheers!

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#1917441 12-Dec-2017 14:16

Linuxluver:

I'm not averse to saving money........My enemy is time. I tend to buy the first thing I see that's good enough (Job done!!). I probably save a lot of time (but waste a lot of money). :-)

Time is the most precious resource for most of us. If you can buy time with money, consider it! You can always get more money, time just ticks away never to return. You just need to figure out what your time is worth to you per hour and go from there.

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#1917442 12-Dec-2017 14:17

vyking56:

I'm now delighted to own a grey 2015 "S" which I bought on the weekend.

Congrats and welcome to the club!

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#1917471 12-Dec-2017 14:53

There will be a bit of learning curve.

Look at getting one of the ?odsm dongles and leafspy and look at how much power you use, charging etc and join flipthefleet.org

If you are on facebook think about joining nzev group.

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#1917735 12-Dec-2017 22:18

vyking56:

I'm now delighted to own a grey 2015 "S" which I bought on the weekend.

Welcome!

Top tip (took us two weeks to figure out 😬)

Eco mode!

By pulling back on the ‘gear’ toggle twice you can engage ‘Eco’ mode, which makes the ‘gas’ pedal a little sluggish but adds about 10% more range to your drive. It also automatically disengages (momentarily) if you floor the pedal, so you still have the VROOM effect if pulling into traffic/passing etc...

Good luck learning to drive differently too... we went from averaging 5.4km/Kw to now averaging 6.9km/Kw... a bonus of 30odd kms/ ‘full’ battery 😉

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#1917767 13-Dec-2017 00:43

vyking56:

Thought I'd finally register and thank Linuxluver and everyone else who has contributed to this fantastic thread. I read it all which inspired me to take one out for a drive, armed with a pile of knowledge gathered here and some specifics I wanted to experience first hand.
I ended up re-reading sections of the thread, watching several hours of YouTube videos and tripple checked my calculations after hearing repeatedly that repayments can be cost-neutral when you dont have normal fuel and servicing costs.

I'm now delighted to own a grey 2015 "S" which I bought on the weekend.

For anyone who is on the fence and/or weighing up getting one like I was, I can honestly say that I've gone from 7-8L of BP98 per day to 8-10 kWh on my 72KM daily commute idling along in Wellington traffic.
With special nightly rates for Wellington EV owners (Flick Electric), my daily commute costs alone have dropped from $18 to around $1.50 with other priceless benefits like no emissions, noise, heat etc.

Thanks again everyone, I don't think I would have made the decision quite so easily to test one, let alone buy one if it wasn't for all of the great information and experience shared above!

Cheers!

Utterly awesome. Thank you for taking the plunge. :-)

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#1917768 13-Dec-2017 00:46

PhantomNVD:

Good luck learning to drive differently too... we went from averaging 5.4km/Kw to now averaging 6.9km/Kw... a bonus of 30odd kms/ ‘full’ battery 😉

It's kind of 'car as real-life simulation' my daughter says.

It can be very addictive. :-)

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#1917769 13-Dec-2017 00:46

PhantomNVD:

Good luck learning to drive differently too... we went from averaging 5.4km/Kw to now averaging 6.9km/Kw... a bonus of 30odd kms/ ‘full’ battery 😉

It's kind of 'car as real-life simulation' my daughter says.

It can be very addictive. :-)

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#1919152 13-Dec-2017 16:11

Attention Leaf owners who got their Leaf from those dealers who do "automatic" (dongle-type, 3-rd party) Dash conversions without back up / back out plan. As we found out "dongle-UK-version-conversion" apparently changes Energy System settings now displaying kWh/100km instead of default km/kWh (Japanese original settings). Although we know where those settings are and can change those, we only have been changing Language:

The "dongle" conversion is one-way only. Below is what you get after "salesman at the yard" plugs dongle in and presses the button without knowing what they are actually doing and not asking client if they will be comfortable with those new settings:

Those who want their km/kWh back are welcome to come to us and revert those settings. We know what we are doing.

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#1919266 13-Dec-2017 19:43

vyking56:
Thought I'd finally register and thank Linuxluver and everyone else who has contributed to this fantastic thread. I read it all which inspired me to take one out for a drive, armed with a pile of knowledge gathered here and some specifics I wanted to experience first hand.

I’ll second this post.

I’ve been reading the thread since it started, and while I was already interested in the Leaf and had taken one for a test drive I’m sure if it wasn’t for the thread I’d not have taken the plunge to buy one. Thanks in particular to Linuxluver for his thoughts and advice via PM.

My wife’s requirements (and she’ll be the main driver of it) included that it must have multiple airbags, which is fairly hard to find on an ex-Japanese Leaf, and it does appear to add a bit to the cost (and means needing to be less fussy about things like colour and more tolerant of a higher mileage than initially aiming for), especially when we were trying to stay at or under the $20k figure.

Ours only arrived at the dealers on Monday, and once the head unit is replaced (my wife wants it all in English!) etc it’ll be on a transporter heading our way. Thus far I would certainly recommend dealing with EV Central, who are on to it and ever-helpful and engaged in responding to questions etc.

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#1919272 13-Dec-2017 19:55

Sorry, that my first post here needed to start on a somewhat negative note and in response to a long-time poster here. I'm a multi-Leaf owner and engineer myself and have followed some good conversation here off and on over the years. One thing I generally really enjoy about NZ's EV community is the really positive vibe.

However, it is one thing for 'Ruki' to copy the Leaf instrument cluster conversion that we pioneered, but criticising our conversion tool with false 'facts' is going a bit far.

After conversion using our tool, the Economy Efficiency screen has units of km/kWh and not kWh/100km as claimed. This has been the case for all versions of our tool released to date.

km/kWh is the unit used on Japanese models and kWh/100km is the unit used on European, UK and NZ-new models. Of course, neither is more correct than the other, but we accept that most NZ Leaf owners are used to km/kWh as displayed on the JDM cars, so that is what we have stuck with for a long time now.

Some of the very first cars we converted manually (long before the creation of our tool) had a Euro/NZ config and units of kWh/100km. It was the guys at Bluecars that suggested it would be preferred if we changed to km/kWh which we promptly did. It has been this way ever since.

'Ruki' really has no justification for being grumpy about our tool in the first place. Back when he was scratching around trying to figure out how I was doing it, I openly told him we were developing a low-cost tool it to make our conversion process more accessible, efficient and cost effective for all Leaf owners around NZ. We've done exactly what we've said we would do. He's just sour that he has figured it out in the mean time, but the efficiency of our process has allowed the cost to be reduced so much.

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