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#145478 19-May-2014 14:45

I have to say ... I don't think Vettel is that good a driver, all things being equal. I think it was all his car. He is being eaten alive by his rookie team mate!

The alternative explanations are: His driving style does not suit these new cars.

The facts that point against this statement: If he and Mark had the same car, he was always faster after ever since Istanbul 2010.
You could say that about Alonso and other people.

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#1048079 19-May-2014 14:50

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I disagree. I think Kobayashi is the best.

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#1048357 19-May-2014 19:59

It's impossible to judge talent in F1. I don't rate Hamilton and he didn't consistently beat Button who I put alongside Webber, maybe a bit above. Although I am biased because I think Hamilton is pretty arrogant.

I do think Vettle is a good driver and it's not uncommon to have a car turn to a dog a season later. Especially with the amount of rule changes. I just think the Mercedes engineers and designers have done a stunning job and if Hamilton was amazing he would be blowing Nico away every race.

Kobocrashy is amazing. Keeps it interesting.

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#1048366 19-May-2014 20:10

Most winners are arrogant. That's why they win. By shunting someone aside when it's 50 50.

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#1048372 19-May-2014 20:16

Vettel's car isn't bad or a dog, but it isn't suiting his style. Same with Raikonnen. Last race Vettel started 15th, had a different chassis, made great ground, fastest lap, and that was when the Mercedes pair were racing hard and in clear air. And, despite his reputation for not being that great in the field, he made some great moves. Monaco is an odd race, it won't show the pace Vettel may have, but I expect him to be 3/10 up on Ricciardo , who is doing great job.

Its a weird season, there is no championship to look forward to. It was decided when they are a second a lap up. That was the end of the Constructors. I believe Hamilton is favoured by Mercedes, so he will win drivers title. Funny how the luck always goes one way..... Seen it all before, Red Bull was one example

But fun to see the others racing in behind Mercedes.

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#1048438 19-May-2014 21:56

Yeah the other acing is great and yeah you are right, the Redbull car isn't that bad but isn't weird to have a new car built around a champion not suit his style? As an aside I wish refuelling still existed.

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#1048445 19-May-2014 22:12

Is any one planning to go to F1 singapore?

SIA has a awsome package - flights, accomdtn and tickets for $1400 SGD,

Am just considering if i shud break the savings :)

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#1048446 19-May-2014 22:13

really? that's cheaper than just flights!

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#1048448 19-May-2014 22:17

ok it's "from" $xxxx

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#1048453 19-May-2014 22:31

its from because obviously if u wanted say a better viewing platform or hospitalty it would be expensive but for basic package i still believe it s value for money as the flights alone would normally cost atleast $1100

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#1048569 20-May-2014 09:34

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Roughly I think it is really down to the cars, engineers and team strategy. I think it would be better if their was no communication to the drivers at all (including telling them when to pit), so that the race strategy has to be done at the start of the race and by only the driver during the race.

However, if one is interested in the team strategy, then the current format is quite interesting, especially now that there is enough telemetry around fuel and tires for viewers to be able to guess the race strategy more easily.

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#1051374 22-May-2014 21:06

F1 is 70% car and 30% driver, whereas MotoGP is the opposite.

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#1051376 22-May-2014 21:18

And the driver of 30% importance have beaten the world champion x4 by 10 places in quali so he must be at least 300% better?

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#1051392 22-May-2014 21:38

sep11guy: Is any one planning to go to F1 singapore?

SIA has a awsome package - flights, accomdtn and tickets for $1400 SGD,

Am just considering if i shud break the savings :)

I was told the experience is very different this year because of how quiet they sound, but it is still a very good deal indeed.

joker97: And the driver of 30% importance have beaten the world champion x4 by 10 places in quali so he must be at least 300% better?

Hardly.

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#1051413 22-May-2014 22:05

current f1 drivers are all prima donnas.

checkout rallying where drivers have to cope with a much wider range of conditions.

succeed at rallying and you are likely to do well in other car racing too.

taker a look at the wtcc coverage this sunday on tv3 and a chap by the name of sebastien loeb.

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#1051415 22-May-2014 22:08

he's not going to win the next 10 wtcc is he?

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