Novak Djokovic's entry to Australia rejected, tennis star to be flown out later today

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#2846862 11-Jan-2022 19:39

Good sir, I fear you underestimate the sheer bloody-mindedness of the Government of the Commonwealth of Australia. Doing the "worse" thing is practically par for the course for them.

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#2846863 11-Jan-2022 19:57

i'm calling it - djokovic to stay

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#2846927 12-Jan-2022 07:17

Its a pity that he was detained due to Covid requirements, non vaxxed, now he's out, there is no safety requirement. So, non vaxxed, you get unfairly treated at the border, that means you can now bypass Covid safety rules, crazy

Looking forward to his first match, see what "racquet" the crowd makes when he walks onto the court!

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#2846933 12-Jan-2022 08:03

Thanks to the govt lawyers, from this day forth there is no reason to stop unvaccinated from getting into Australia other than politics

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#2848257 12-Jan-2022 14:28

https://www.insider.com/news-anchor-calls-novak-djokovic-lying-sneaky-on-hot-mic-2022-1

Leaked video shows an Australian news anchor launching a foul-mouthed hot mic tirade about Novak Djokovic, calling him 'lying' and 'sneaky'.

Worth a watch. Both anchors referred the Jock in much tougher terms.

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#2849471 12-Jan-2022 17:24

Some Murkiness....

'Does not match': Novak Djokovic facing fresh questions over positive Covid-19 test results

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/tennis/127486327/does-not-match-novak-djokovic-facing-fresh-questions-over-positive-covid19-test-results

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Der Spiegel also revealed that when it scanned the QR code for the test from December 16, the result from the scan was “test result Negative.” About an hour later, the publication said a second scan of the QR code returned a different result: “Test result Positive.”
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Djokovic gained entry to Australia on the basis that he had a positive test for Covid-19 on December 16, which he claimed gave him a valid exemption for being unvaccinated. But data in the test result URL from the Institute of Public Health of Serbia, linked in the QR code provided to Border Force as part of Djokovic’s visa application, suggests it is timestamped December 26.

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#2849474 12-Jan-2022 17:27

Batman: Thanks to the govt lawyers, from this day forth there is no reason to stop unvaccinated from getting into Australia other than politics

What have the lawyers got to do with it?

The border force and the Australian government cocked this up. The lawyers just have to deal with the mess.

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#2849476 12-Jan-2022 17:30

tdgeek:
Its a pity that he was detained due to Covid requirements, non vaxxed, now he's out, there is no safety requirement. So, non vaxxed, you get unfairly treated at the border, that means you can now bypass Covid safety rules, crazy

Looking forward to his first match, see what "racquet" the crowd makes when he walks onto the court!

No, it’s not crazy. He has to comply with existing Covid rules, as do the Australian authorities.

This has no material effect on Australia other than making them look bad.

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#2849496 12-Jan-2022 18:36

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No, it’s not crazy. He has to comply with existing Covid rules, as do the Australian authorities.

This has no material effect on Australia other than making them look bad.

The case was about his cancelled Visa. As expected that was reversed. But it still leaves the issue is he eligible quarantine free or not? I get that that the case was not about that. So his Visa was reinstated, but what next? Is he there legally but has to MIQ or not? Clearly not. So the Covid issue that an asymptomatic previous infection does not mean non MIQ is also reversed. But that wasn't the case but thats how it worked out. It should have been sorry you were not treated fairly at the border. here is your Visa and there is MIQ for the rest of the duration.

But as you mentioned earlier its political, it has nothing to do with Covid at all

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#2849497 12-Jan-2022 18:39

tdgeek:

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No, it’s not crazy. He has to comply with existing Covid rules, as do the Australian authorities.

This has no material effect on Australia other than making them look bad.

The case was about his cancelled Visa. As expected that was reversed. But it still leaves the issue is he eligible quarantine free or not? I get that that the case was not about that. So his Visa was reinstated, but what next? Is he there legally but has to MIQ or not? Clearly not. So the Covid issue that an asymptomatic previous infection does not mean non MIQ is also reversed. But that wasn't the case but thats how it worked out. It should have been sorry you were not treated fairly at the border. here is your Visa and there is MIQ for the rest of the duration.

But as you mentioned earlier its political, it has nothing to do with Covid at all

Quarantine is managed by the state and they set their own criteria. He has a valid quarantine exemption from Victoria, that was never in dispute.

The dispute was about his visa exemption which is different.

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#2849500 12-Jan-2022 18:40

Handle9: He has to comply with existing Covid rules, as do the Australian authorities.

AFAIK the rules were if you were symptomatic and sick, thats ok, if you were asymptomatic and feel great, that's not ok, you are not eligible for quarantine free. But his Mom said she he was in Spain that he had no symptoms. Case in point.

I feel the case got the correct decision. But the Covid safety measures did not.

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#2849501 12-Jan-2022 18:43

Handle9:

Quarantine is managed by the state and they set their own criteria. He has a valid quarantine exemption from Victoria, that was never in dispute.

The dispute was about his visa exemption which is different.

Ok, so the valid quarantine exemption from the state is not the Federal rule overrides the Federal rule?

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#2849502 12-Jan-2022 18:44

tdgeek:

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Quarantine is managed by the state and they set their own criteria. He has a valid quarantine exemption from Victoria, that was never in dispute.

The dispute was about his visa exemption which is different.

Ok, so the valid quarantine exemption from the state is not the Federal rule overrides the Federal rule?

No. It's a state matter and has nothing to do with the federal government.

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#2849505 12-Jan-2022 18:49

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No. It's a state matter and has nothing to do with the federal government.

OK, thanks, I accept that. makes a mockery of the word Government though. Its like a Canterbury, NZ, government having laws that are a world apart from Wellington. The US/AUS model. There is no "real" Government for the country

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#2849520 12-Jan-2022 19:06

tdgeek:

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No. It's a state matter and has nothing to do with the federal government.

OK, thanks, I accept that. makes a mockery of the word Government though. Its like a Canterbury, NZ, government having laws that are a world apart from Wellington. The US/AUS model. There is no "real" Government for the country

The same thing happens in New Zealand. The NZ government doesn't set your rates or establish planning zones. Devolution of powers to different levels of government is entirely normal. In larger countries more powers get devolved, especially if they have federal systems of government. It's just a different system.

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