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TeaLeaf

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  #2661368 22-Feb-2021 20:15
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Jas777:

 

The way you go on you think he was the best batsman NZ ever produced.

 

 

And Munro has converted his 1st class capability? NO, irrelevant.

 


T20 is not about batting classical cricket, like I said, HOW Allen batted this year, including against NZs best bowlers, had all the skills the very best in form t20 batsman have, him and Phillipe looked very similar in HOW they batted.

George worker was the closest too him and he isnt even selected. Its pretty clear they see talent in Allen. He had a lot of rough starts being blocked then used in injuries for Auckland. This was his first season as a #1 batsman for a team. And he took that and regardless of anything else, he creamed every other player. You cannot ignore form, out of fear.

Intent is 95% of what you want in a t20 batsman, providing they can play every shot imaginable. The game is so far removed from 1st class cricket.

We will see how right you are soon enough.




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  #2661370 22-Feb-2021 20:17
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TeaLeaf:

 

Handle9:

 

Finn Allen isn't in the squad, he was on standby for Guptill

 



He is in the Squad, whether they play him or not will change through the series.

 

Nope


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  #2661416 22-Feb-2021 20:21
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Well one of the tried and true Players, Neesham, is finding form out of nowhere. Where Mitchell was so instrumental up the order for Canterbury. 

Clearly we need some old guards in the team, but I reckon they have to have 100% aggressive intent, just like Aus.

Not looking forward to Stoinos chasing this, him and Marsh. 




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  #2661421 22-Feb-2021 20:30
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This is where we are 1-2 batsmen too light, Santner in already. 

Well we have the team available, I think our next game will be a much better team. Good on Neesham though not noodling it. If every top 8 scores SR200, then 200+ is always on the cards. Just need 1-2 more heavy hitters in earlier.

Conway like ive been talking about all summer, being a support player for Allen this year, he was still SR170 odd with a massive avg.


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  #2661429 22-Feb-2021 20:35
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Need an aggressive Captain for NZ white ball.

 

Captain Conway? ;-) haha


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  #2661430 22-Feb-2021 20:36
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TeaLeaf:

This is where we are 1-2 batsmen too light, Santner in already. 

Well we have the team available, I think our next game will be a much better team. Good on Neesham though not noodling it. If every top 8 scores SR200, then 200+ is always on the cards. Just need 1-2 more heavy hitters in earlier.

Conway like ive been talking about all summer, being a support player for Allen this year, he was still SR170 odd with a massive avg.



At the time both Philips and Neesham needed to play aggressively and allow Conway the anchor to hold the other end.




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  #2661435 22-Feb-2021 20:40
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TeaLeaf:

Need an aggressive Captain for NZ white ball.


Captain Conway? ;-) haha



He would definitely deserve the Blackcaps T20 captaincy.




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  #2661436 22-Feb-2021 20:40
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Dochart:
TeaLeaf:

 

This is where we are 1-2 batsmen too light, Santner in already. 

Well we have the team available, I think our next game will be a much better team. Good on Neesham though not noodling it. If every top 8 scores SR200, then 200+ is always on the cards. Just need 1-2 more heavy hitters in earlier.

Conway like ive been talking about all summer, being a support player for Allen this year, he was still SR170 odd with a massive avg.

 



At the time both Philips and Neesham needed to play aggressively and allow Conway the anchor to hold the other end.


Yep thats what Conways done for Wellington with Finn Allen just going Bannanas, supported him but when Allen gets out Conway takes over. 

NZ could just get 1 more batsman in there, I reckon we have a consistant 200+ team. didnt pay off today, but if they score 200 every 2nd innings they will win far more. Conway and whoever else opening is the key imo, then Conway as you said supporting Phillips and Seifert.

Heck can we afford to leave both Taylor and Williamson out bahaha

Conway will be stuck in the 90s for third innings in a row? I hope he hits a sixer for 100


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  #2661437 22-Feb-2021 20:44
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@Tealeaf

Santner should have pushed for that 2nd run and not leave Conway hanging on 99. Even if that meant Conway would of been out I still wanted to see if Conway got his 100.

Santner did Conway dirty by not running for the 2nd run




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  #2661438 22-Feb-2021 20:44
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Great recovery thanks to 3 of the best players this season.

But I feel Aus have 200 in them. Look how deep they bat. EEEEK!


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  #2661442 22-Feb-2021 20:45
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Dochart:

At the time both Philips and Neesham needed to play aggressively and allow Conway the anchor to hold the other end.

 

Yep. Tell Mr T to move on from this old guard stuff! Only 11 on the field


 
 
 

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  #2661443 22-Feb-2021 20:49
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tdgeek:

 

Dochart:

At the time both Philips and Neesham needed to play aggressively and allow Conway the anchor to hold the other end.

 

Yep. Tell Mr T to move on from this old guard stuff! Only 11 on the field

 



Definitely worth trying before the WC, which is what these trial teams have all been about.

Id only play Williamson if as an all rounder.

I would try a game with out the old guards.

Also if Lockie was fit, Id drop Boult (he will prob take a 5fa now haha).

We have depth to create an 8 batsman squad and 2 pretty good all rounders on top.

I presume we drop Nick'alls to make room for Conway in the WCT!!!


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  #2661444 22-Feb-2021 20:52
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TeaLeaf:

 


Heck can we afford to leave both Taylor and Williamson out bahaha

 

 

You jest but you made a point. We need the next gen. Conway, Philips, Neesham scored 155 of the 184 runs. And thats with no Finn and no Mitchell. Do you expect Guppy to get a good or great knock over and over? Not any more.Yiu do with Conway. And the others are more consistent than todays old guard.


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  #2661445 22-Feb-2021 20:56
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TeaLeaf:

Definitely worth trying before the WC, which is what these trial teams have all been about.

Id only play Williamson if as an all rounder.

I would try a game with out the old guards.

Also if Lockie was fit, Id drop Boult (he will prob take a 5fa now haha).

We have depth to create an 8 batsman squad and 2 pretty good all rounders on top.

I presume we drop Nick'alls to make room for Conway in the WCT!!!

 

 

Worth trying? Do you want best team or an old team? Conway is not on trial. Maker room for Conway lol

 

Old guard wise, Ross is gone, and he is today, a better bet than Guppy. Guppy out Allen in. No trial. 


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  #2661447 22-Feb-2021 21:00
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tdgeek:

 

You jest but you made a point. We need the next gen. Conway, Philips, Neesham scored 155 of the 184 runs. And thats with no Finn and no Mitchell. Do you expect Guppy to get a good or great knock over and over? Not any more.Yiu do with Conway. And the others are more consistent than todays old guard.

 



No I think we have the depth now where we do not need them, I agree.

However, Id like to see Taylor keep going until the next ODI WC. I think we now have the team that can win the ODI WC. That would be something 3 finals in a row and finally winning one haha.

Also Seifert. Munro And guppy..... unsure

We know he is one of the best openers ever for NZ in white ball. But he has come back from Zero cricket. I hope he can just find form instantly.

Finch gone, Aus best player, but Phillipe the best potential. I hope we get him quickly. But Stoinos at 8 is damn scary.


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