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#2662754 25-Feb-2021 19:26

Macca and Rigor were discussing "zen" vs "plug n play" styles of selection

Zen = stick with tried and true, sometimes they fail but will come thru in the long run

Play n play = Select for the specific requirements of the match

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#2662755 25-Feb-2021 19:30

Dochart:
Handle9:

Fortunately the selectors will persevere with players they seem as long term players and not chase "form"

So I’m guessing this will be a repeat of the 2019 World Cup campaign for the Blackcaps. If you continue to pick players who have been out of form then you might as well wave bye to winning a World Cup. You should only be selecting those who have been in form, know how to play in certain conditions and be able to face top ranking bowlers at an international level.

You mean the tournament we made the final? Being second in the world for two consecutive world cups is such a poor performance.

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#2662757 25-Feb-2021 19:37

clinty: Macca and Rigor were discussing "zen" vs "plug n play" styles of selection

Zen = stick with tried and true, sometimes they fail but will come thru in the long run

Play n play = Select for the specific requirements of the match

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Every team has core players and then horses for courses. Your keeper isn't generally a horses for courses player. They've invested in Seifert for quite some time and he's starting to produce. He's not there yet but they've pretty clearly identified him as a core player.

Everyone has bad runs, especially in T20. Jamieson hasn't got the ball coming out that well at the moment, that doesn't indicate he should be dropped as he has the ability to be a core player and win games. Seifert has had a couple of failures but the ability seems to be there. You persevere with these guys.

Chopping and changing your core players never works.

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#2662763 25-Feb-2021 19:48

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Overall performance for getting to 2 world cup was excellent but Guptill let us down throughout the 2019 World Cup tournament. Other than the runs Guptill scored vs Sri Lanka in the 2019 World Cup match I think it was a shame to drop Munro over him. Both were underperforming but I think Munro was getting out at a lot of the attacking shots but Guptill was getting out to a lot of LBW’s or bowled.

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#2662765 25-Feb-2021 19:56

So what? He had a bad month.

He averaged 42 in 2019, with 3 centuries prior to the world cup. Would you have dropped a player averaging 42 or said he was in "form"

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#2662799 25-Feb-2021 20:42

Handle9:
So what? He had a bad month.

He averaged 42 in 2019, with 3 centuries prior to the world cup. Would you have dropped a player averaging 42 or said he was in "form"

I would have dropped him before the Pakistan game. They had Blundell in team and he could have played some of the league matches as opener to see if he will perform or not. The previous league matches other than the 73 he got from SL was, 25 v Ban, 0 vs Afg, 35 vs SA, 0 vs WI, 5 vs Pak, 20 vs Aus and 8 vs Eng.

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#2662802 25-Feb-2021 20:54

Then India would have likely won and we wouldn't have made the final.

You get a fair bit more rope when you are one of New Zealands greatest ever limited order players.

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#2662809 25-Feb-2021 21:13

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Even without the run out the Blackcaps may have still been in the final either way. I still think the Blackcaps should have given a few games to Blundell to see how he would do at the opening position and if he would have done better than Guptill and Munro.

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#2667512 3-Mar-2021 20:55

Siefert fails again, that’s 3 in a row now. Time to bring in Finn Allen or Colin Munro.

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#2667546 3-Mar-2021 22:11

Pity. They skied a lot of shots in their innings and got any with it, and a 5fer bowler, hard to beat that.

First game we had a huge advantage with the dew and swing, second Guppy got a out of the blue 97. Nobody stood out or got close and we folded. Good effort up front to hang around the 10RR for a good way.

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#2667583 4-Mar-2021 08:13

I agree with everything above Dochart,

Guptil under performed for a long time.
Finn is young and definitely in the team, he should be getting games imo.

Also when spots are at a premium, why are we giving Chapman a chance?
The guy didn't bowl and comes in batting at no 7...
He is pretty much just a specialist fielder at that point.

Hopefully Jamieson learns some tricks in the IPL and comes back a cricket god.
After that none of the other selections will matter anyway haha.

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#2668540 5-Mar-2021 18:52

OZ favourites on TAB, win toss, bat first, and now even odds

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#2668541 5-Mar-2021 18:54

tdgeek:
OZ favourites on TAB, win toss, bat first, and now even odds

I think Oz will win this match, mark my words. It seems batting last at night seems to be a lot harder. If it was a day game it would have been fine batting last on this pitch.

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#2668548 5-Mar-2021 19:07

T20 with no crowd is bilge. Almost unwatchable.

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#2668549 5-Mar-2021 19:08

Dochart:

I think Oz will win this match, mark my words. It seems batting last at night seems to be a lot harder. If it was a day game it would have been fine batting last on this pitch.

Marketing/rigged wise 2-2 works. But NZ at home 3-1 works with a dead rubber that OZ win big.

T20 is a lottery. Game 1 the dew and swing won it, game 2 an unlikely Guppy won it. Game 3 the ball always fell between fielders, and the openers contributed then everyone failed Kiwi batting wise. That was hopeless. Kiwis go well in front and choke elsewhere.

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