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#3314223 29-Nov-2024 15:37

thermonuclear:

Second one dropped off Smith, he'd be eyeing up the 5-fer now otherwise.

Indeed and Brook out for 18, then 37, now he spanks a 6 for his 50. Flappn annoying, especially for Smith. What was the point of GP extending our score to 350 odd if we just gonna drop them all the way to 400. It looks amateur.

I think its time for GP imo, behind the run rate. Even if its to change things up and see how much assist he gets.

Edit: Here we go, I got a feel for this sport :-)

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#3314243 29-Nov-2024 16:03

TeaLeaf:

Indeed and Brook out for 18, then 37, now he spanks a 6 for his 50. Flappn annoying, especially for Smith. What was the point of GP extending our score to 350 odd if we just gonna drop them all the way to 400. It looks amateur.

I think its time for GP imo, behind the run rate. Even if its to change things up and see how much assist he gets.

Edit: Here we go, I got a feel for this sport :-)

Yep, time for GP's golden arm, NZ needs to catch a break as the English have been riding theirs too long. Still got Stokes to come too, this could get ugly unless we go bam-bam after the tea break.

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#3314245 29-Nov-2024 16:16

thermonuclear:

as the English have been riding theirs too long. Still got Stokes to come too, this could get ugly unless we go bam-bam after the tea break.

indeed, take 140 off their score before Stokes is in and would have been a huge difference to the game.

Edit: Id like to see GP come around the wicket to Brook. GP is getting enough turn in and if he puts one thats turning into the off stump, Brook is not that well organised with his long levers, I think GP could either rattle the wickets or get him LBW..

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#3314251 29-Nov-2024 16:54

GP says, if you going to drop the catches off my bowling Im just going to show the team how its really done (forgetting the regulation one earlier).

Thats another GP top ten catch of the year, I think he has 9 of the 10. haha. He really does push for the worlds top fielder.

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#3314252 29-Nov-2024 17:00

TeaLeaf:

GP says, if you going to drop the catches off my bowling Im just going to show the team how its really done (forgetting the regulation one earlier).

Thats another GP top ten catch of the year, I think he has 9 of the 10. haha. He really does push for the worlds top fielder.

Catch of the home summer, can't see that one being beaten, what a grab!

That aside, the 4th drop by Conway makes this a pretty poor fielding effort. NZ should have them nearly out by now with a huge 1st Innings lead. As it is they will be lucky to take any advantage into their second turn at bat.

Been watching the Talksport commentary on YouTube, former NZ captain and teacher Jeremy Coney has been schooling Jon Norman on the poor catching of the Kiwi's today. Very funny and Norman was playing along, but Coney was right on the money.

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#3314254 29-Nov-2024 17:07

thermonuclear:

Catch of the home summer, can't see that one being beaten, what a grab!

That aside, the 4th drop by Conway makes this a pretty poor fielding effort.

So true, Brook dropped 3 times is absurd, a guy with his record start to Test cricket you dont drop him 3 times. It should be 86/5 a number of overs back. Its getting ridiculous. He needs some aggression now, a bouncer that hit his helmet, then a 150kph yorker, twice.

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#3314259 29-Nov-2024 17:24

Really enjoyed seeing the replay of that almost carbon-copy screamer Phillips took off Labuschagne. He is some fielder in the gully, the one he dropped earlier was almost too simple by his standards, prefers them away from his body and almost past him.

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#3314261 29-Nov-2024 17:39

thermonuclear:

screamer Phillips took off Labuschagne. He is some fielder in the gully, the one he dropped earlier was almost too simple by his standards, prefers them away from his body and almost past him.

totally, honestly I think he was in shock having a catch directly too him and more behind the wicket.

hes also bloody quick, he saves a lot of runs in the field.

He set that slow short ball up for the catch with his bowling, then Conway drops it. He deserved that wicket.

all that work from GP to get them a reasonable total is undone.

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#3314265 29-Nov-2024 17:45

Need a new playing 11 for the next test match. Young at 5, GP at 6 and Mitch Hay or Cleaver at 7.

GP at 8 is such a waste. He would have scored a few centuries by now.

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#3314266 29-Nov-2024 17:48

Did you see the replay, Bundell dropped one as well, about sums the day up.

NZ threw away wickets yesterday and they have thrown away catches today. Hard to see how they get to 3-0 in this series if they continue with this standard of performance.

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#3314269 29-Nov-2024 18:16

thermonuclear:

Did you see the replay, Bundell dropped one as well, about sums the day up.

yep and no doubt Orourke would have known.

Now Latham drops his 4th easy one. Hes dropped the Test Match.

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#3314364 30-Nov-2024 12:24

I hate players getting accolades dropped 5 times, which was the same for Nicholls 160 which kept him in the squad.

Not saying Brook is a bad player, and surviving a dropped catch and making a big one, but 5 times, no thats not something imo you go wow that was amazing batting.

We will never know but NZ could have made a 200 lead if they hadnt dropped 6 sitters.

anyway, Eng's setup right now stokes and then a guy at 9 who scored 100 at Lords is what NZ is missing, not to mention between Rachin and GP we have a failed mid order that needs rethinking. For me its Mitch Hay to 7, GP to 6 and Young to 4/5.

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#3314380 30-Nov-2024 14:15

NZ will need to knock this big lead off with only losing one wicket at most. 550 will be needed. 500minimum.

Conway needs a ton, Blundell needs to not be so terrible, GP needs support from all 3 pace bowlers who can bat a bit. Young should be in the team. Blundell is down to Test avg of 33 that he started with coming from FC. That is not good enough and not out 6th best batsman.

I cant see it with accurate bowling from Eng and an offy who was turning it day one.

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#3314392 30-Nov-2024 15:00

TeaLeaf:

NZ will need to knock this big lead off with only losing one wicket at most. 550 will be needed. 500minimum.

Conway needs a ton, Blundell needs to not be so terrible, GP needs support from all 3 pace bowlers who can bat a bit. Young should be in the team. Blundell is down to Test avg of 33 that he started with coming from FC. That is not good enough and not out 6th best batsman.

I cant see it with accurate bowling from Eng and an offy who was turning it day one.

Given NZ has struggled with the bat for the last couple of years, Williamson and Ravindra notwithstanding, I think 500+ is going to be a huge ask of this side. Stranger things have happened though.

Best thing about today so far was the feature on Ish Sodhi at lunch, another excellent piece. Good to see Dion Nash again, he's let himself go a bit though. Great allrounder in his day.

Another failure from Conway, if he was a horse you'd take him out the back and shoot him. Used to average nearly 60 didn't he?. Feel sorry for the guy.

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#3314397 30-Nov-2024 15:29

thermonuclear:

Best thing about today so far was the feature on Ish Sodhi at lunch, another excellent piece. Good to see Dion Nash again, he's let himself go a bit though. Great allrounder in his day.

Another failure from Conway, if he was a horse you'd take him out the back and shoot him. Used to average nearly 60 didn't he?. Feel sorry for the guy.

I missed that Sodhi piece, will have to watch on demand, one of Fav bowlers. Him and Lockie were our white ball best for a lengthy period. In another time given hes improved his batting with such hard work, he would have been a regular in the test team.

Conway spanked that one to only get caught. altough imo the fingers were around the side of the ball, you can see the ball half out, you cant use the ground to retain the catch. Either way, I think Devon needs to maybe put some shots away, unless he KNOWS he can get over the top of the ball. Yep, like Mitchell hes gone from near 60avg, but unlike Mitchell who only had a FC of 38, Conway was avgn high 40s. He needs to just give himself time, like Williamson does, time in the middle as opener, there are few demons, so wait for the softer ball.

Stead has to make a decision on Blundell, low 30s is not good enough. If we dont win this Test WTC is out so may as well blood the young gun WK.

Mitchell I do not know the answer, he hasnt scored a century this year, he was "ok" last year, but 2022 was his best year by far at 68 with 3 tons and 2 50s from 7 tests. Hes in the position Id like to see GP, that middle order all rounder that he started as. But if Young is in the side Id hae 4 Rachin, 5. Young 6. GP 7. Mitch Hay 8. Smith 9. Henry, that is a much more solid middle batting to 9 (depending on who replaces Southee, maybe 10 like Eng). Smith has the potential to match Stokes if he can lift his batting game a little.

Id be happy if Sears was 10, avg20+ at 9 is plenty of depth, which is often needed for consistently 500+. I hope Williamson plays one more home season. Otherwise Rachin goes to 3 and Young 4, then its the question of Mitchell or possibly Nicholls in the middle order if they dont blood another middle soon. Even with Mitch Hay as WK Id consider Cleaver for the middle as a stop gap. Id have to have a good think about our FC players, but we do need to start blooding some young Batsmen soon.

Edit: Chapman scored 276 for auckland yesterday in Plunket Shield.

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