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#2146172 16-Dec-2018 17:11

Bad luck to Kane out 91, but thats an increase for his AVG.

Tom Latham 84/200. A true openers knock. I hope he opens up once he gets that 100 or if Taylor gets going he tells Tom to anchor. NZ havnt had an openers N/O at completion of an innings in I dont know how long, if ever. I admit I didnt like him for a long period, but hes just getting better and better at his role, which is not to score small centuries.

If Taylor or Nicholls fire, I can see us hitting 500+ and basically winning the test in our first innings by Tea Time tomorrow afternoon with a declaration. IF we get going and another of the top 3 can fire. Either way, providing we dont get out prior to reaching SL's score by the time Colin is due to the crease, I can see us making a very hanfy 50-100 lead at least. This is where it would be nice to have someone like Guptil to come in once the shine is off the 2nd new ball and the runs on the board and he can play his natural game, which is someone technically very good who can belt the ball putting the fear of NZ into the opposition. His straight lofted drives are the best shots in any format of the game imo. And I love how he hits it so clean almost every time, then he holds the bat in its finished position like Tiger Woods driving a 5 shot par hole.

TeaLeaf

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#2146218 16-Dec-2018 18:07

As I predicted Latham letting loose now hes gotten to the Mark.

300 odd ball is a lot for a century and takes a lot of mentaly stoic strength.

Now the score are even and we have 8 wickets in hand and 1 player seeing baloons on wicket it batsman terms looks 9.5/10 to bat on.

Really we should easily hit 500, this is NZ'a test to lose/draw. It will take a real collapse from Nicholls and Colin to open the really long tail.

Even 400 I can see only rain stopping NZ win this one.

At this rate 3.66RPO, NZ will hit 500 by Tea tomorrow, which I think they would declare at having 230 run lead. Gives NZ nearly the entire remaining 7 sessions to bowl Sri Lanka out based on their first innings run rate. Or they may put the foot down and bat 30 overs at 5RPO which would give them about 180 lead and this means they have 8 sessions to bowl Sri Lanka out and if they cant do that, they dont deserve to win. Even if Sri Lanks made 350 by Stumps day 4, I think NZ will cruise 230 in day 5.

I just cant see outside Sri Lanka batting out 8 sessions how they can avoid a Loss.

tdgeek

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#2146235 16-Dec-2018 19:05

We will be an innings ahead by tea tomorrow, 2 days to bowl them out, easy win, as TAB stated. Charging iPad 12.9 now!

Ranking wise, do we get extra credit if the win is easy as compared to a takes 5 day win?

TeaLeaf

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#2146497 17-Dec-2018 11:32

Good question, Ive always thought it was set points for Win, draw, loss. But Id like to know now. If we can finish them off by day 4 that would be good for our morale and confidence.

Very impressed for once every player has contributed and delivered so far. What a shame for Taylor. But the way Nicholls smashed that 4 he looks like hes into it.

Either Tom Latham or BJ Watling will be N/O at end of our innings. If its Tom that will be his first double ton. Tom has dropped to 36 on his AVG, so this will do him some good in trying to get it back up and over 40avg.

I do hope Colin finds some form though as Im sure he will be needed at some stage today to stick it out with the bat.

TeaLeaf

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#2146525 17-Dec-2018 12:54

Definitely the best Stoic innings I have seen from Latham. He has scored slightly higher so far, but this is a classic opening batsmans century, turn it into a double and it will go down as one of NZ's best opening batsman innings ever.

TeaLeaf

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#2146546 17-Dec-2018 14:06

Time to put the foot down, if we make 430 its game over either chasing or if we go on with it bowling the out and only batting once.

But to be assured we need to bowl them out twice. Given how well we are batting at 3.53RPO, we have 2 options, declare at Tea around 520, which is a 250 run lead. Or bat out the day at approx 620 runs which is a 350 leave. The last option has its merits as this wind and the time out on the field is clearly grinding the Sri Lanka team down which will mean very tired batsmen, so that option has its merits simply based on attrition.

Going on what Kane Williamson did to risk a loss to win the test series in UAE, he declared with Pak needing 3.5RPO but importantly it gave NZ 4 sessions to bowl and Pak out and win the series. So whilst its slightly different. I think Kane will go for the risky option and declare with 9 sessions to survive. Because even if we have to chase 200 to win, so be it, we have to bowl them out twice, as quickly as possible. The old school mentality prior to Mccullum would be to bat until its impossible for them to win. Now we are a successful test team because our captaincy has improved so much this last 12 months. It was my biggest gripe about Williamson was his captaincy initially, I felt we were heading back to Stephen Fleming days. But Williamson is coming of age as a captain.

There is no right or wrong answer. But I can see Williamson choosing the riskier option, knowing his bowlers can bowl the opposition out below the 250 runs require to force NZ to bat again.

Oh wow those Welli hish scores, reminds me so much of Martin Crowe for the 299. I just couldnt believe it, it seemed unreal when he was out, it seemed a for gone conclusion that he would make the 300, I was stunned for the rest of the day, these days it doesnt seem a big deal but scoring 300 was a huge thing in those days and we didnt have anyone looking likely to score a triple. But wow did Martin (RIP) play them all around the park,

WyleECoyoteNZ

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#2146569 17-Dec-2018 14:50

As I write this Latham is edging towards a double ton.

Now, if you're Kane what do you do?

Declare once\if Latham gets a double ton, with a lead of 170 or thereabouts

Or push on towards 500, and then declare with a lead of 220 or so.

Although it is fine in Wellington today, tomorrow is looking average (strong northerly's) and Wednesday could be a washout.

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wratterus

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#2146572 17-Dec-2018 14:52

Looking at the forecast, I'd let Latham (hopefully) get his 200, as long as CDG is still in I'd give the guys 20 mins or so to go nuts and get as many runs as possible then declare.

GV27

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#2146574 17-Dec-2018 14:53

WyleECoyoteNZ:

As I write this Latham is edging towards a double ton.

Now, if you're Kane what do you do?

Declare once\if Latham gets a double ton, with a lead of 170 or thereabouts

Or push on towards 500, and then declare with a lead of 220 or so.

Although it is fine in Wellington today, tomorrow is looking average (strong northerly's) and Wednesday could be a washout.

I'd play towards the end of the day, once Latham is safe past 200 then you just give the tail-enders license to go at it and try to tire the Sri Lankans out before putting them in this evening.

I wouldn't want to play more than ten - fifteen overs at the end of the day, and given we're already five down, maybe declare at with a view to starting at 5pm if Latham isn't out of partners already?

WyleECoyoteNZ

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#2146579 17-Dec-2018 15:11

Latham's got his 200!

Congratulations!

CDG hasn't been hanging around 39 runs from 39 balls, current lead of 197

TeaLeaf

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#2146581 17-Dec-2018 15:16

GV27:

I'd play towards the end of the day, once Latham is safe past 200 then you just give the tail-enders license to go at it and try to tire the Sri Lankans out before putting them in this evening.

Thats Kane 2.0 and his aggresion is working. Lathams double is over. Now its time to go nuts from Colin and the tail and let Tom anchor it. Declare at Tea with 230-270. Runs on the board pressure. 3 sessions Sri Lanka will need to match our score. From there I feel unlikely they will be more than 100 ahead at end of their 2nd innings (I dont think they will make 250 even). With 4 sessions sessions I think its highly unlikely outside rain that NZ wont score 100 in 4 sessions.

wratterus:

Looking at the forecast, I'd let Latham (hopefully) get his 200, as long as CDG is still in I'd give the guys 20 mins or so to go nuts and get as many runs as possible then declare.

So Yes, declare at Tea and between now and then its hammer time. Or to be somewhere between being assured and being aggressive, play through 45mins-1hour after Tea. Which will give us about 310-320. Plenty with 6.5 sessions to bowl em out and if needed score a small total.

TeaLeaf

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#2146605 17-Dec-2018 16:06

Day 5 could be a right off for all we know, more likely half a days lost. We need to win this game by day 4. For cripes sake, declare now. We can bowl them out for 240 runs.

Come on Kane. 2 tail enders scores are not worth the risk of Lathams Not OUt, others have done you favours, pass it on We dont need another 20 kese. Put them in to bat.

sdav

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#2146658 17-Dec-2018 19:58

Congrats Latham with your 264*. I'll be honest and expected him to go early, pleasantly and happily surprised. He's a test player, leave him there! It's time we invested in separate T20, ODI, and Test lineups more than we have been.

TeaLeaf

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#2147143 18-Dec-2018 14:46

Sri Lanka finally showing the style of batting I was expecting from them and why I didnt think this would be a white wash series. In saying that, normally when a team scores 600 in a test with 2 and a bit days to bowl the opposition out, its a near certainly of the win, however tomorrow looks like a rain out. So NZ have to bowl them out in this next 1.5 sessions.

What a shame as it seems certain Sri lanka will hold on. The only chance I see is the new ball in 16 overs, NZ breaking these 2 and getting into the tail.

I will agree with commentary, the fielding was far too conservative at the time, in hind site im not sure if it would have made a difference, but when you show your intent is to get the other team out, which puts doubt in the batsmans mind.

And now Patel is turning it on both edges and we have no catches in play. Doully made me laugh "Im not sure this is very good captaincy". No its flappn terrible, after being more aggressive in the UAE.

They must know they only have today to play with. So they have to throw every possible offensive position they can at Sri Lanka. Not only this I will repeat what I was saying yesterday with Kane wasting 20 overs for very few runs. You bowl the other team out twice and back your team if there is an extra 100 to score in say the final session or even less that they can do it. No matter what aggressively play toward bowling them out twice and anything else is secondary.

I think our lack of aggression in fielding positions gave Sri Lanka the oppurtunity to feel relaxed and play some shots. Which they have, they have been brilliant.

So IMO if we dont win its due to the defensive captaincy which has enabled Sri Lanka to show just how good they can bat since Matthews lost weight and returned.

Patel is starting to look more dangerous, but we are running out of time. I just hope this isnt us missing out on our one chance to get to #2 in the world which wont last long and wont happen again for a while.

GV27

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#2147210 18-Dec-2018 15:58

Spectacularly bad.

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