Formula 1 2021 Season Discussion

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#2742888 12-Jul-2021 10:08

All I know is it's about time. A certain driver - let's call him L Hamilton... wait that's too obvious.... Lewis H had a critically acclaimed race at Hockenheim one year where he just ran people off at the hairpin even if they managed to stay along side him and closed them out off the track. Of cause, it was praised by the predominantly English F1 press as being a 'masterclass' but it was just a diabolical outcome from an actual racing POV.

We need to get away from people's idea of 'hard and fast racing' being contingent on the driver's nationality matching their own.

In the V8 supports yesterday two Toyota 86s managed to do a full lap of Townsville alongside each other.

If amateurs can manage it then the world's best drivers in better equipment can as well. But it will involve going back to grass-roots racing like karting and enforcing the 'always leave a space' rule, so that the kids whose parents can afford to repair their karts every weekend don't just push off the kids whose parents can't.

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#2742895 12-Jul-2021 10:29

GV27:

All I know is it's about time. A certain driver - let's call him L Hamilton... wait that's too obvious.... Lewis H had a critically acclaimed race at Hockenheim one year where he just ran people off at the hairpin even if they managed to stay along side him and closed them out off the track. Of cause, it was praised by the predominantly English F1 press as being a 'masterclass' but it was just a diabolical outcome from an actual racing POV.

We need to get away from people's idea of 'hard and fast racing' being contingent on the driver's nationality matching their own.

In the V8 supports yesterday two Toyota 86s managed to do a full lap of Townsville alongside each other.

If amateurs can manage it then the world's best drivers in better equipment can as well. But it will involve going back to grass-roots racing like karting and enforcing the 'always leave a space' rule, so that the kids whose parents can afford to repair their karts every weekend don't just push off the kids whose parents can't.

100%

Ironically they and most are critical of the sanitised tracks, i.e. no gravel, just tarmac runoff areas, now its hard racing, push people off, and dont pass if there is gravel. Want more passing? Apparently so, but maybe dont pass you might get pushed off...

How much wheel to wheel do you see the Alonso's etc doing and they finish the race? Thats because they are good, they want to finish , they want to pass, and they follow the rules and they are good. No need to push others off

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#2742901 12-Jul-2021 10:42

Traditionally you've done enough to secure the position, and have rights to the racing line if you're ahead at some point in the corner. If you haven't managed to get far enough up alongside then the lead car is entitled to take the racing line and shut the door on you. The idea of always having to leave space is quite a change to that, and sees the racing move on further down the track.

I'd be interested to see what the rules say about all of this, and if they've changed or they're now just being enforced.

In other news, Sprint race format kicks off at Silverstone. 1/3 distance race is qualifying and has 3 championship points on offer from memory.

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#2742906 12-Jul-2021 10:54

Jaxson:

Traditionally you've done enough to secure the position, and have rights to the racing line if you're ahead at some point in the corner. If you haven't managed to get far enough up alongside then the lead car is entitled to take the racing line and shut the door on you. The idea of always having to leave space is quite a change to that, and sees the racing move on further down the track.

I'd be interested to see what the rules say about all of this, and if they've changed or they're now just being enforced.

In other news, Sprint race format kicks off at Silverstone. 1/3 distance race is qualifying and has 3 championship points on offer from memory.

Im sure in 2 of last weeks 3 push offs, the trail car was in front, albeit early in the turn. At the push off point pretty level, or even a tad behind

What I feel is best is if the trail car is good enough to get alongside, even if its just their front wheels alongside the leaders rear wheels, I feel they have taken ownership of that line, room must be left. The lead car just needs to stay ahead then they can take whatever line they like as they own the line, they arent sharing it.

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#2742929 12-Jul-2021 11:45

I mean it's simple - F1 must decide whether it wants to reward only the hail-Mary divebombs down the inside because they get to the apex first (regardless of whether they can make the corner without bouncing off someone, like Villenueve would have in Jerez had Schumacher not tried to pincer him) or whether it wants compel drivers to leave space and have some actual side-by-side racing.

We know they can do it because team mates do it all the time when they race each other - no one is running anyone off then.

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#2744560 15-Jul-2021 13:24

This is good news, you now get free access to F1TV Pro with spark sport!

https://help.sparksport.co.nz/f1-tv-pro-with-spark-sport?

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#2744562 15-Jul-2021 13:26

yep just synced my account and it went through fine!

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#2744563 15-Jul-2021 13:31

skewt: This is good news, you now get free access to F1TV Pro with spark sport!

https://help.sparksport.co.nz/f1-tv-pro-with-spark-sport?

What does F1TV Pro do over and above the SkyF1 coverage?

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#2744564 15-Jul-2021 13:33

tdgeek:
skewt: This is good news, you now get free access to F1TV Pro with spark sport!

https://help.sparksport.co.nz/f1-tv-pro-with-spark-sport?

What does F1TV Pro do over and above the SkyF1 coverage?

Team radios, onboard driver cams and pit lane channel
Also access to live timings etc

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#2744565 15-Jul-2021 13:34

Also the tracker which is awesome

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#2744568 15-Jul-2021 13:40

Head over to https://f1tv.formula1.com/ and then click on ‘subscribe’. Underneath the plans you will see an option to activate F1 TV Pro with a Spark Sport Subscription. Click on ‘Activate’ and then ‘sync my account’. Enter in your Spark Sport email address and password to complete the process.

I think Sync My Account should read choose Sign In Enter in your Spark Sport email address and password to complete the process

then I get There was a problem with your password or email address. Please check your details and try again.