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#1357025 2-Aug-2015 11:13

So let's have all possibilities of who/what

1. An alien
2. The CIA
3. Some corporate who didn't want some secret project to succeed
4. Terrorist
5. A hacker from the internet
6. Someone on the plane

1. Went to all that trouble?
2 & 3. Any ideas how they could do it?
4. Unlikely. They usually target Americans or British or Australian.
5. Possible. But he flew the plane like a pilot. Not like a gamer would.
6. Very likely

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#1357032 2-Aug-2015 11:17

So who on the plane could do it?

A very clever pilot
An extremely intelligent less experienced co pilot
A crazy genius in the crowd who watched a lot of Hollywood movie and memorized the entire 777 manual to do all that, and memorized every security procedure to get into the cockpit, disable the pilot and co pilot without anyone getting in the way and somehow no distress call in the process.

That's all we can deduce.

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#1357040 2-Aug-2015 11:27

joker97: Yes that's true. But we have facts and we can make some deductions

Fact
1. Plane had everything disabled, changed course, flew across the Malaysian peninsular in a specific course. These all happened right after goodnight Malaysian 370.

Deduction
1. Someone turned off everything
2. Someone was in control of the plane
3. No one attempted any distress call.

Who could cause all 3 to happen?

Let's look at the "facts" you you mention.

Everything was disabled - we know systems stopped working, we don't know why, it could have been human intervention or it could have been a failure of some sort.
Changed course - Yes it did.
Flew on a specific course - this has never been verified.
The disappearance happened right after they said good night - I don't see what this has to do with it at all.

The only facts we know for sure is the aircraft changed course and there was no distress call.

We cannot say for sure

Someone turned everything off
Someone was in control of the aircraft - it may have been on auto pilot.

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#1357043 2-Aug-2015 11:30

the Malaysian military radar tracked the plane and plotted its specific course when it flew across the Malayan peninsular

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#1357055 2-Aug-2015 11:44

joker97: the Malaysian military radar tracked the plane and plotted its specific course when it flew across the Malayan peninsular

Did they? Really? If I recall correctly initially no one admitted to seeing anything.

Anything admitted subsequently I suspect was to save face. I mean, really, how could the military admit they never saw it when it's reasonable to to think they might have.

2 am on a Saturday morning? There's a fair chance either the military radar wasn't being monitored or even turned on. There was nothing going on that required its' monitoring. They're never going to admit to that are they.

Frankly I don't trust their reported plots and so far as I know to date any reported tracking by MH370 to evade radar has never been properly verified.

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#1357057 2-Aug-2015 11:45

http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/04/report-suggests-malaysian-military-knew-mh730-had-turned-around-but-didnt-react/360520/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370#Radar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370#/media/File:MH370_initial_search_SEA.png

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#1357060 2-Aug-2015 11:51

Technofreak:
joker97: the Malaysian military radar tracked the plane and plotted its specific course when it flew across the Malayan peninsular

Did they? Really? If I recall correctly initially no one admitted to seeing anything.

Anything admitted subsequently I suspect was to save face. I mean, really, how could the military admit they never saw it when it's reasonable to to think they might have.

2 am on a Saturday morning? There's a fair chance either the military radar wasn't being monitored or even turned on. There was nothing going on that required its' monitoring. They're never going to admit to that are they.

Frankly I don't trust their reported plots and so far as I know to date any reported tracking by MH370 to evade radar has never been properly verified.

it flew across the face of 3 countries, all who were sleeping like babies.

but the radar will be active, and they have the data.

it showed the plane deliberately flying between everyone to avoid stirring anyone.

except penang. it flew around penang, one last time.

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#1357061 2-Aug-2015 11:52

joker97: http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/04/report-suggests-malaysian-military-knew-mh730-had-turned-around-but-didnt-react/360520/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370#Radar

That doesn't confirm anything. The whole is based on speculation as the claims weren't confirmed. If there's any truth in that article it does however show the lack of co-ordination or perhaps confusion within the Malaysian government. Why did it take two days for the military to come out and say they saw it? It doesn't make any sense.

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#1357064 2-Aug-2015 11:56

joker97:

it flew across the face of 3 countries, all who were sleeping like babies.

but the radar will be active, and they have the data.

it showed the plane deliberately flying between everyone to avoid stirring anyone.

except penang. it flew around penang, one last time.

Can you provide a verified source for this information?

P.S.

I'm not say all of what you say didn't happen. I'm saying until we have concrete evidence we cannot say for sure what happened.

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#1357066 2-Aug-2015 12:02

Technofreak:
joker97:

it flew across the face of 3 countries, all who were sleeping like babies.

but the radar will be active, and they have the data.

it showed the plane deliberately flying between everyone to avoid stirring anyone.

except penang. it flew around penang, one last time.

Can you provide a verified source for this information?

P.S.

I'm not say all of what you say didn't happen. I'm saying until we have concrete evidence we cannot say for sure what happened.

you won't get concrete evidence from the Malaysian government. so no.

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#1357077 2-Aug-2015 12:12

here are some not so concrete evidence. if you don't understand why you never get anything concrete from Asia you need to live there i cannot explain in one line. except maybe if you google all the scandals linked to the Malaysian PM from stealing billions of dollars to the murder of a mongolian woman by way of blowing her up with military grade explosives, to setting up his opposition leader to be jailed for raping his younger-fitter-stronger-than-him assistant.

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/radar-data-shows-mh370-flew-erratically-nyt-reports

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31736835

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#1357078 2-Aug-2015 12:14

Technofreak:
joker97: http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/04/report-suggests-malaysian-military-knew-mh730-had-turned-around-but-didnt-react/360520/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370#Radar

That doesn't confirm anything. The whole is based on speculation as the claims weren't confirmed. If there's any truth in that article it does however show the lack of co-ordination or perhaps confusion within the Malaysian government. Why did it take two days for the military to come out and say they saw it? It doesn't make any sense.

having surfed the news today, it seems J Parker's KO punch is even more mysterious than this MH saga!

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#1357131 2-Aug-2015 14:00

joker97: Yes that's true. But we have facts and we can make some deductions

Fact
1. Plane had everything disabled, changed course, flew across the Malaysian peninsular in a specific course. These all happened right after goodnight Malaysian 370.

Deduction
1. Someone turned off everything
2. Someone was in control of the plane
3. No one attempted any distress call.

Who could cause all 3 to happen?

Well, at the point that turn was made, someone caused that. I don't think you can deduce that *someone* turned off everything...it could also have been (e.g.) a fire. We don't even know that *everything* was turned off. Beyond the last turn, it could be that the auto-pilot was in control of the plane. We don't know if anyone *attempted* any distress calll.... we just know that one wasn't received. If someone (or something) had turned off the radio, then no-one could have made a distress call.

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#1357133 2-Aug-2015 14:06

Apparently the wreckage was on the beach for months, and they interviewed a guy who had been using it as a table. He had been burning things like seats and suitcases that he had found on the beach. you really do have to wonder why after spending multi millions on a search, that they didn't have people employed doing simple beach searches, as it was always very likely debris would wash ashore, as they already knew it had crashed into the ocean. Sure the beach area is huge, but not as big or complex or costly as searching the ocean floor.

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#1357146 2-Aug-2015 14:41

I'm not a fan of "the pilot did it" theory either... until it is proven.

There's still uncontrolled decompression, fire, explosions.... all sorts of things.

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