Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




752 posts

Ultimate Geek

Trusted

# 160536 10-Jan-2015 17:31
One person supports this post
Send private message

http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/auckland/passengers-pulled-from-illegal-uber-cab/

j
ust seen this on the news, cant believe it. hate it when govt and industry cant keep up with technology.






Voice gives context

Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9
5168 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Microsoft

  # 1211630 10-Jan-2015 18:05
3 people support this post
Send private message

This is going to back fire on NZ Taxi Federation by giving Uber more publicity

28264 posts

Uber Geek

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1211652 10-Jan-2015 18:25
8 people support this post
Send private message

I'm also interested to know why the Police are involved. Any such issues are dealt with by the NZTA who are responsible for the enforcement of laws regarding private hire and taxi vehicles.

The Police better hope they have a good knowledge of what they are doing, because they run a real risk if they're simply being told to do something of ending with egg on their face. In Melbourne they start pulling Uber cars off the road and fining drivers but there is a very good chance the Police will be told in court that they overstepped the law when they did this.


 
 
 
 


1013 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1211661 10-Jan-2015 18:36
Send private message

sbiddle: I'm also interested to know why the Police are involved. Any such issues are dealt with by the NZTA who are responsible for the enforcement of laws regarding private hire and taxi vehicles.

The Police better hope they have a good knowledge of what they are doing, because they run a real risk if they're simply being told to do something of ending with egg on their face. In Melbourne they start pulling Uber cars off the road and fining drivers but there is a very good chance the Police will be told in court that they overstepped the law when they did this.



I know the guy involved today. He just got picked up and the cop spotted the pickup and pulled them over 100m down the road. He identified himself as part of the Commercial vehicle enforcement team (CVUI) so I assume they out of any of the police would know the taxi laws. My mate ended up having to get out and walk after the Uber driver was given infringments.


Mad Scientist
20909 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1211664 10-Jan-2015 18:41
One person supports this post
Send private message

so is it legal or not?




Involuntary autocorrect in operation on mobile device. Apologies in advance.


4536 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1211667 10-Jan-2015 18:44
7 people support this post
Send private message

Someone in the taxi business knows someone high up in the police force to get them to take action???

It seems like a waste of resources for the police to be chasing after the uber-driver???

That picture shows that the Car has appropriate COF etc.





6730 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1211669 10-Jan-2015 18:51
Send private message

joker97: so is it legal or not?

That's the tricky bit. Uber says that the police are "falsely [issuing] fines claiming an iPhone is being used as a taxi meter". Is the iPhone being used as a meter or is it just reporting the figures from a certified meter? Is it even relevant? I have no idea what the laws are around this so I can't tell whether it's legal or not.

Edit: Having said that, Uber seems to have a history of showing disregard for laws in various countries. I saw an article just a few days ago from somewhere else (South Africa?) where Uber didn't have a taxi permit. The excuse was "the process for getting a permit is too slow"... so they ignored the law and operated a taxi service anyway.

Edit 2: Found the article.

1013 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1211672 10-Jan-2015 18:52
Send private message

nakedmolerat: Someone in the taxi business knows someone high up in the police force to get them to take action???

It seems like a waste of resources for the police to be chasing after the uber-driver???

That picture shows that the Car has appropriate COF etc.


What they're getting them on is using 'illegal' meters where as they're accusing the drivers of using the Uber APP as a meter. 

Unless they run their certified meter (ie the normal taxi one) they're only allowed to operate on fixed rate basis.

 
 
 
 


1013 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  # 1211675 10-Jan-2015 18:57
3 people support this post
Send private message

nakedmolerat: 

It seems like a waste of resources for the police to be chasing after the uber-driver???


The officer was from the Commercial vehicle enforcement Unit so I wouldn't call it a waste of resource considering their job is to monitor all areas of the commercial vehicle industry, including trucks, buses, taxis, couriers, mobile cranes, and mobile homes. According to the police website

2157 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1211677 10-Jan-2015 18:59
Send private message

But everyone knows the uber app isnt a taxi meter.. The fares are set before the trip!

EDIT: Maybe it is? except the metering is done before the trip, its still charged by KM's etc

6730 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1211680 10-Jan-2015 19:00
Send private message

Yabanize: But everyone knows the uber app isnt a taxi meter.. The fares are set before the trip!

For certain values of "everyone". I didn't know that... but it seems like there aren't any laws being broken after all.

5168 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Microsoft

  # 1211681 10-Jan-2015 19:01
3 people support this post
Send private message

This just makes me want to use Uber even more. $45 for me in an Uber to airport vs $75 in AKL coop, and I don't have to deal with phoning anyone to order and pissing around at the end paying.

Mad Scientist
20909 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1211701 10-Jan-2015 19:40
Send private message

well sounds like if the iphone app was used as a "meter" (ie dollar figures keeps going up) then it is 100% illegal, no grey there. otherwise ... the argument is, is the iphone screen showing a dollar sign and a few numbers - is that called a meter or is that not called a meter




Involuntary autocorrect in operation on mobile device. Apologies in advance.


28264 posts

Uber Geek

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1211709 10-Jan-2015 19:44
Send private message

joker97: well sounds like if the iphone app was used as a "meter" (ie dollar figures keeps going up) then it is 100% illegal, no grey there. otherwise ... the argument is, is the iphone screen showing a dollar sign and a few numbers - is that called a meter or is that not called a meter


The app does not function in that way - it does not display an increasing balance like a normal taxi meter. The rate is based on the distance and time travelled however, which is calculated by the GPS track you take.



2157 posts

Uber Geek


  # 1211718 10-Jan-2015 19:57
Send private message

I think some people need educating on this 3 News Disqus Comment thread, perhaps you would like to sbiddle?  Or someone else? I don't know enough about it :P 

http://www.3news.co.nz/nznews/police-target-uber-for-taxi-metering-2015011017

4431 posts

Uber Geek
Inactive user


  # 1211722 10-Jan-2015 20:03
Send private message

Interesting the CVIU are on this... they're normally too busy eating lunch at a weighbridge ;P

I'm thinking that CVIU hasn't worked out how the tech works yet and they'll end up in a bit of poo when/if they're wrong.

 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Microsoft New Zealand Partner Awards results
Posted 18-Oct-2019 10:18


Logitech introduces new Made for Google keyboard and mouse devices
Posted 16-Oct-2019 13:36


MATTR launches to accelerate decentralised identity
Posted 16-Oct-2019 10:28


Vodafone X-Squad powers up for customers
Posted 16-Oct-2019 08:15


D Link ANZ launches EXO Smart Mesh Wi Fi Routers with McAfee protection
Posted 15-Oct-2019 11:31


Major Japanese retailer partners with smart New Zealand technology IMAGR
Posted 14-Oct-2019 10:29


Ola pioneers one-time passcode feature to fight rideshare fraud
Posted 14-Oct-2019 10:24


Spark Sport new home of NZC matches from 2020
Posted 10-Oct-2019 09:59


Meet Nola, Noel Leeming's new digital employee
Posted 4-Oct-2019 08:07


Registrations for Sprout Accelerator open for 2020 season
Posted 4-Oct-2019 08:02


Teletrac Navman welcomes AI tech leader Jens Meggers as new President
Posted 4-Oct-2019 07:41


Vodafone makes voice of 4G (VoLTE) official
Posted 4-Oct-2019 07:36


2degrees Reaches Milestone of 100,000 Broadband Customers
Posted 1-Oct-2019 09:17


Nokia 1 Plus available in New Zealand from 2nd October
Posted 30-Sep-2019 17:46


Ola integrates Apple Pay as payment method in New Zealand
Posted 25-Sep-2019 09:51



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.