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# 245577 11-Feb-2019 16:11
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/110485050/air-new-zealand-flight-bound-for-shanghai-china-turned-around-midflight

 

So will we ever know if this is a mistake by Air NZ, or a not very subtle push back resulting from issues such as the 5G Huawei decision by NZ?   Unsurprisingly Stuff did not open this story for comments.


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  # 2176580 11-Feb-2019 16:11
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Allow me to introduce you folks to our new travel community: TravelTalk NZ.

 

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  # 2176585 11-Feb-2019 16:14
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I cant see how a mis filed flight plan or rego issue would result in turning it back. The excuse was it takes too long or is too hard on a weekend with China's bureaucracy. 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2176615 11-Feb-2019 16:24
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Air New Zealand just admitted it was their cock up.

 

Apparently they used a newer aircraft that hadn't flown the route before. Not approved.

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12202787

 

 


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  # 2176618 11-Feb-2019 16:27
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Air NZ balls up. It's not a great look.

 

 




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trig42:

 

Air New Zealand just admitted it was their cock up.

 

Apparently they used a newer aircraft that hadn't flown the route before. Not approved.

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12202787

 

 

 

 

So, Air NZ admit to it being their fault.  What I am wondering about is whether it's normal for these rules to be enforced so strictly.  I wonder if in some cases it would result in a rap over the knuckles for the airline, or a fine to be paid, instead of something far more drastic.  As they are in the wrong Air NZ are not going to complain about the situation.


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  # 2176645 11-Feb-2019 17:18
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Yes it is, China is a PITA when it comes to aviation paperwork





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  # 2176661 11-Feb-2019 17:25
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So, Air NZ admit to it being their fault.  What I am wondering about is whether it's normal for these rules to be enforced so strictly.  I wonder if in some cases it would result in a rap over the knuckles for the airline, or a fine to be paid, instead of something far more drastic.  As they are in the wrong Air NZ are not going to complain about the situation.

 

 

I doubt we'll find out exactly what happened. Air NZ only admitted it was an administrative error. These things happen, it's not exactly going to cast a major shadow on the airline. It may well be that Air NZ has done everything they needed to with respect to this aircraft, but the Chinese haven't yet done their side of the paperwork. Air NZ is responsible for the aircraft complying with requirements, so it's best to take it on the chin and not attribute blame elsewhere, even if it is perhaps warranted. There were likely cock ups all around.

 

A few years ago there was a bit of fuss about an aircraft landing in NZ with expired biosecurity certification.  It had only expired a few days earlier. The plane was sprayed on arrival as per the rules (which used to happen to all international flights). I suspect it's probably something as trivial as that which caused this to happen, not some great conspiracy.


 
 
 
 


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China is a bureaucratic country whereas New Zealand isn't to that level. At the end of the day the airline must comply with the requirements.





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  # 2176712 11-Feb-2019 19:05
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Zeon:

 

China is a bureaucratic country whereas New Zealand isn't to that level. At the end of the day the airline must comply with the requirements.

 

 

Try going to USA without the right paperwork.





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  # 2176720 11-Feb-2019 19:19
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Batman:

 

Zeon:

 

China is a bureaucratic country whereas New Zealand isn't to that level. At the end of the day the airline must comply with the requirements.

 

 

Try going to USA without the right paperwork.

 

 

I was once all by myself in the LAX arrival lounge. Just me and the immigration lady. I forgot the street address of where I am staying so made one up..... Fortunately my then gf was driving down to New Orleans so I was set free!


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Zeon:

 

China is a bureaucratic country whereas New Zealand isn't to that level. At the end of the day the airline must comply with the requirements.

 

 

Agree, BUT. The issue was that particular aircraft was not authorised. Its not the make and model, its JUST the rego of it. To put 200+ passengers out, and many hours of wasted flying is ridiculous. It must be the tough guy look, Huawei related, a reminder. Off course we cant do anything as we are under their control, figuratively. Its a superpower, spreading its influence globally, the Pacific and Africa. One day there will be ructions, and the battle lines will be drawn. These will be non military battle lines initially.


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  # 2176727 11-Feb-2019 19:41
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SirHumphreyAppleby:

A few years ago there was a bit of fuss about an aircraft landing in NZ with expired biosecurity certification.  It had only expired a few days earlier. The plane was sprayed on arrival as per the rules (which used to happen to all international flights). I suspect it's probably something as trivial as that which caused this to happen, not some great conspiracy.



You can make that one month ago. We flew in on NZ1 and the certification had expired, obviously AirNZ missed it, so we spent an extra 10 minutes or so at the gate while MPI came on board and sprayed the cabin, primarily the overhead luggage area. From what we were told they still spray the Hawaii flights daily, but presumably not with the passengers on board.

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tdgeek:

 

Batman:

 

Zeon:

 

China is a bureaucratic country whereas New Zealand isn't to that level. At the end of the day the airline must comply with the requirements.

 

 

Try going to USA without the right paperwork.

 

 

I was once all by myself in the LAX arrival lounge. Just me and the immigration lady. I forgot the street address of where I am staying so made one up..... Fortunately my then gf was driving down to New Orleans so I was set free!

 

 

I got stuck in a room at LAX for about 6 hours, waiting while they escalated up the chain of command to check if the paperwork I had for some potentially biohazardous material (lab samples) in my luggage was ok.  Of course it was all OK, but I'll never get that 6 hours back.  Not one smile either.


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  # 2176734 11-Feb-2019 19:53
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rscole86:
SirHumphreyAppleby:

A few years ago there was a bit of fuss about an aircraft landing in NZ with expired biosecurity certification.  It had only expired a few days earlier. The plane was sprayed on arrival as per the rules (which used to happen to all international flights). I suspect it's probably something as trivial as that which caused this to happen, not some great conspiracy.



You can make that one month ago. We flew in on NZ1 and the certification had expired, obviously AirNZ missed it, so we spent an extra 10 minutes or so at the gate while MPI came on board and sprayed the cabin, primarily the overhead luggage area. From what we were told they still spray the Hawaii flights daily, but presumably not with the passengers on board.


We flew in to AKL from Hawaii six months ago and the Hawaiian Airlines plane was hand sprayed inside, with us passengers sitting in there - with a ten-minute wait for the spray to take effect.

Surprised us - I thought this stopped 20 years ago.

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tdgeek:

 

Batman:

 

Zeon:

 

China is a bureaucratic country whereas New Zealand isn't to that level. At the end of the day the airline must comply with the requirements.

 

 

Try going to USA without the right paperwork.

 

 

I was once all by myself in the LAX arrival lounge. Just me and the immigration lady. I forgot the street address of where I am staying so made one up..... Fortunately my then gf was driving down to New Orleans so I was set free!

 

 

I got stuck in a room at LAX for about 6 hours, waiting while they escalated up the chain of command to check if the paperwork I had for some potentially biohazardous material (lab samples) in my luggage was ok.  Of course it was all OK, but I'll never get that 6 hours back.  Not one smile either.

 

 

LOL, maybe I looked less dodgy. 


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