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#268579 27-Mar-2020 08:19
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Once this Covid crisis has ended these are the things that should not resume:

 

1.)  Tourism to and from other countries.  Visiting family in other countries.  Business trips.   No longer viable, replace with skype and similar technologies.

 

2.)  International conferences.  Not needed, G20 leaders proved that yesterday with a video conference.

 

3.)  All immigration needs to cease except for our UN refugee quota.  Refugees would still be welcomed to NZ after a strict quarantine period.  Airport hotels could be used for this.

 

Air cargo flights would be allowed with flight crews using four or five star type motels at the airport.   They would do all their own cooking & units would be stocked with food & drinks prior to arrival.  This would minimise contact with others. 

 

NZ, Australia, & some other countries could do this.   This scheme would likely be unworkable in Europe and other countries with land borders.

 

Do I think this will ever happen - very unlikely!   Do I think it should - absolutely.  The next pandemic could be just years away.


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  #2447659 27-Mar-2020 08:19
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Allow me to introduce you folks to our new travel community: TravelTalk NZ.

 

We hope to see you there!

 





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  #2447671 27-Mar-2020 08:29
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yeah it will resume as it was. every major event happened in the past had its influence but after some time things went back to normal. 9/11, swine flu, birds flu, etc, etc, etc. We will learn how to live with it, thus resume normal life style.





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  #2447674 27-Mar-2020 08:32
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You are kidding right?

 

 

 

I work so that I can travel and experience the world. 

 

 

 

Yes I am working from home and using video conferencing, but I can assure that I and my team are about 20% as effective as we are when we are in the office. I communicated daily with my team in Sydney but travel there once a month. I can get more done in 2 days on the ground in Sydney than I can get done in a month of video conferences.

 

 

 

And you want me to never give my mother, father and sister a hug again?

 

 

 

 


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  #2447677 27-Mar-2020 08:37
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We won't have any jobs for refugees Look at the number of kiwis that have lost jobs!


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  #2447682 27-Mar-2020 08:51
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This is like asking if the world can afford to have buildings because earthquakes...   (sorry this is somewhat tongue in cheek, no offence meant) 


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  #2447719 27-Mar-2020 09:48
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Be no point in building a covered stadium in Christchurch then. 


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  #2447725 27-Mar-2020 09:56
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Linux:

 

We won't have any jobs for refugees Look at the number of kiwis that have lost jobs!

 

 

 

 

These are temporary losses, things will bounce back. Some quicker than others. I expect tourism to take a while, but after we get back to normal, jobs will return on the whole.

 

People may work differently, but a country we still have a need to continue.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2447731 27-Mar-2020 10:05
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1.)  Tourism to and from other countries.  Visiting family in other countries.  Business trips.   No longer viable, replace with skype and similar technologies.

 

Can't tell if being serious, or just joking...

 

I fully intend on exploring the world again once we are allowed. Why on earth would I stop? We've got past SARS, Swine flu, bird flu, etc... this is no different. The only difference is this one has affected "the land of the free" so all us "developed nations" are freaking out.

 

To simply sit at home and be afraid of the world because MAYBE there will be another virus is just moronic.


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  #2447732 27-Mar-2020 10:06
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Amiga, that sounds slightly unhinged.

 

This too will pass. Things will go back to normal and we will be better for the experience overall. We will be better prepared, quicker to respond and probably adopt, at least in the short an medium term, better hygene.

 

I think it wil take >18 months for people to feel free to travel internationally again, but some people will do it much earlier.


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  #2447733 27-Mar-2020 10:12
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This of this as the beginning of WW3. Then look back at the timelines in relation to WW1 and WW2, and there will be some parallels, though with the technology advancement the timelines may well be contracted.





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  #2447769 27-Mar-2020 10:39
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The Worldwide elimination of international air traffic apart from cargo flights, would also make a huge contribution towards the reduction of CO2 emissions.   Each country could then look at measures to reduce domestic air travel as well, for example investment in high speed rail links, electric vehicles, taxes on tickets, etc.  Maybe the UN should be looking at making the  COP26 conference a virtualised event instead of 25000 people flying to Scotland?  Let the UN Sec. General lead by example.


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  #2447773 27-Mar-2020 10:43
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kobiak:

 

yeah it will resume as it was. every major event happened in the past had its influence but after some time things went back to normal. 9/11, swine flu, birds flu, etc, etc, etc. We will learn how to live with it, thus resume normal life style.

 



For the most part I agree with this comment.

I do think it will take lot longer than we are currently predicting to get back to some level of so called 'normality'. And secondly, I believe there will be a lot of things we will reject and those parts of society will become obsolete and new ways of interacting / doing business will emerge.

 

 

 

Try to stay positive and see the opportunities. The way conferences worked in the past may be slightly different in the future... just something to ponder.


  #2447778 27-Mar-2020 10:52
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The Worldwide elimination of international air traffic apart from cargo flights, would also make a huge contribution towards the reduction of CO2 emissions.   Each country could then look at measures to reduce domestic air travel as well, for example investment in high speed rail links, electric vehicles, taxes on tickets, etc.  Maybe the UN should be looking at making the  COP26 conference a virtualised event instead of 25000 people flying to Scotland?  Let the UN Sec. General lead by example.

 

 

 

 

You're kidding, right?

 

Air travel makes up about 2.5% of global CO2 emissions. This is not "huge".


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  #2447781 27-Mar-2020 10:55
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A vaccine should be available in a year or so, but producing enough for the population of the planet will take some time. Imagine the massive amount of resources that will be applied to that job though - anything that can possibly be converted to make the vaccine will be converted.

 

Until then I think things will be quite quiet. Borders closed or mostly closed, changing between levels to keep the load on hospitals manageable, etc.


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  #2447791 27-Mar-2020 11:06
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Perhaps if we banned living in houses and all shopping, only the fittest would survive, the world would become greener, and those survivors would be better off. Amiga500 could lead by example.





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