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  #2379764 22-Dec-2019 08:51
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nathan:

Sure, asking another government to help make a rival candidate look bad is not a domestic issue for the daily lives of Americans. On the other hand this is pretty much exactly specified in the constitution as a bad thing. Pelosi was not keen to begin any impeachment no doubt for some of the reasons you outlined. This one could not be ignored based on the evidence available. It's up to the house and senate to assess the case.

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  #2379769 22-Dec-2019 09:20
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kingdragonfly:
nathan:

 

  • Almost 4 million jobs created since election...

     

  • etc


As most teachers would say: "show your work." You know how to create an unnumbered list, so you should know how to include a hyperlink.

Regarding "Trump's" creation of jobs, the economy does not work on quick timescale. There are natural ups and downs.

Trump is quick to jump onto any success, and to lay blame on literally everyone else if there's a downturn.

New York Times: Amid Recession Worries, Trump Points Finger at American Businesses

Washington Post: Who will Trump blame if we have a recession?

"Now, everything good that happens in the economy is his doing alone, and everything bad that happens is the fault of someone who is trying to undermine him."

Business Insider: Half of Americans would blame Trump for a recession if the economy tanks under his watch

And as you say "etc."

 

oh the original list of accomplishments is even more ridiculous

 

With an election less than a year away, the US economy booming, the sharemarket at an all-time high, record unemployment, with Asian and African Americans getting treated better than the ever did under the Dems, with loads of Dems vowing to impeach Trump right from the start of his presidency (some even before he got elected), with the massive hypocrisy of the Dem leadership, it seems to me the odds are easily in the Dons favor

 

 


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  #2379775 22-Dec-2019 09:34
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I see Trump has signed off on the US Space Force.

 

It's being run by General Flash Gordon and it's mission is to defeat Darth Vader and the Death Star. Trump learnt about it in a documentary called Star Wars something or other (he can't remember the exact title) and he's really worried because it's so bigly. 


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  #2379824 22-Dec-2019 10:21
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nathan:

oh the original list of accomplishments is even more ridiculous



The official White House website. Don't you think that's a little biased.

They seem to have forgotten Trump's previous accomplishments. It's so extensive you need a cheat sheet and a Wikipedia page to keep track.

This is a partial list of accomplishments
  • Four Bankruptcies
  • 3,500 lawsuits
  • 100 tax disputes
  • 3 marriages
  • Payments related to alleged affairs
  • Ignoring congressional subpoenas
  • Destruction of documents
  • Sexual-Assault Allegations
  • The Beauty Pageant Scandals
  • Racial Housing Discrimination
  • Mafia Ties
  • Trump University
  • Trump Charity
  • Tenant Intimidation
  • Alleged Marital Rape
  • Breaking Casino Rules
  • Antitrust Violations
  • Condo Hotel Shenanigans
  • Refusing to Pay Workers and Contractors
  • Undocumented Workers
  • Undocumented Models
And this doesn't even include "big picture" items, like climate change, USA / NATO world-wide reputation, trade wars, and generally bringing instability.

In the Bible, Lucifer is a force of chaos. In reality, it's Trump.

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  #2379825 22-Dec-2019 10:23
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@nathan: I’m not a Trump supporter. I’m an Independent. I’m a New Zealander living in America, who loves politics

 

 

Cool story bro of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting

 

 


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  #2379827 22-Dec-2019 10:39
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BarTender:

@nathan: I’m not a Trump supporter. I’m an Independent. I’m a New Zealander living in America, who loves politics



Cool story bro of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting


 



Feel free to correct anything in my tweet that is incorrect.

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  #2379828 22-Dec-2019 10:43
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kingdragonfly:
nathan:

oh the original list of accomplishments is even more ridiculous



The official White House website. Don't you think that's a little biased.

They seem to have forgotten Trump's previous accomplishments. It's so extensive you need a cheat sheet and a Wikipedia page to keep track.

This is a partial list of accomplishments
  • Four Bankruptcies
  • 3,500 lawsuits
  • 100 tax disputes
  • 3 marriages
  • Payments related to alleged affairs
  • Ignoring congressional subpoenas
  • Destruction of documents
  • Sexual-Assault Allegations
  • The Beauty Pageant Scandals
  • Racial Housing Discrimination
  • Mafia Ties
  • Trump University
  • Trump Charity
  • Tenant Intimidation
  • Alleged Marital Rape
  • Breaking Casino Rules
  • Antitrust Violations
  • Condo Hotel Shenanigans
  • Refusing to Pay Workers and Contractors
  • Undocumented Workers
  • Undocumented Models
And this doesn't even include "big picture" items, like climate change, USA / NATO world-wide reputation, trade wars, and generally bringing instability.

In the Bible, Lucifer is a force of chaos. In reality, it's Trump.


You left off the Access Hollywood “grab them by the pu$$y” tapes

The fact that Americans knew almost all of those things, but voted Trump in anyway, says it all.

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  #2379830 22-Dec-2019 10:48
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What it shows to me is that half of Americans couldn't stand have a woman President after a black President.

They voted Trump because they think an abusive old white man is better than a woman - any woman.




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  #2379845 22-Dec-2019 11:48
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freitasm: What it shows to me is that half of Americans couldn't stand have a woman President after a black President.

They voted Trump because they think an abusive old white man is better than a woman - any woman.


I don’t believe that’s the reality of what actually happened.

Identity politics is evil. Blaming a loss on your genitalia is a sure fire way to keep on loosing.

Hilary lost because she’s part of the neoliberal elite, part of the corrupt Democratic establishment, part of the status quo that basically did none of the things Obama promised - no transformation, no justice reform, no foreign policy changes, not getting America out of any Wars, Guantanamo is still open

She was, and still is of touch with everyday American voters, she supports her Wall St backers - not Main St voters, and frankly, from a corrupt family with a corrupt foundation.

Americans voted because they wanted change after 8 years of none.

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  #2379847 22-Dec-2019 11:51
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SJB:

 

I see Trump has signed off on the US Space Force.

 

It's being run by General Flash Gordon and it's mission is to defeat Darth Vader and the Death StarKodan Armada. Trump learnt about it in a documentary called Star Wars something or other (he can't remember the exact title) and he's really worried because it's so bigly. 

 

 

Their scientific advisor is an enigmatic character known only as “The Doctor”.





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  #2379851 22-Dec-2019 12:03
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nathan:

 

freitasm: What it shows to me is that half of Americans couldn't stand have a woman President after a black President.

They voted Trump because they think an abusive old white man is better than a woman - any woman.

 



Identity politics is evil. Blaming a loss on your genitalia is a sure fire way to keep on loosing.

Hilary lost because she’s part of the neoliberal elite, part of the corrupt Democratic establishment, part of the status quo that basically did none of the things Obama promised - no transformation, no justice reform, no foreign policy changes, not getting America out of any Wars, Guantanamo is still open

 

The way you post this it makes it sound like the Republican party is made up of angels that accept all people of the Earth in peace and the opponent, Trump, was God's envoy to Earth.

 

 

 

nathan:

 

Americans voted because they wanted change after 8 years of none.

 

 

And yet they voted to change based on a misogynist, religious, racist party with a corrupt and evil candidate. Great change there. 





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  #2379852 22-Dec-2019 12:09
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nathan:

Feel free to correct anything in my tweet that is incorrect.

 

By your logic, Maori should not be allowed to live in State houses, which also didn't exist in 1840. I think the idea is that pakeha latecomers owe them something for all the rapes, massacres, land confiscations, unjust incarcerations, poor health outcomes and general deprivation as an oppressed minority. But I guess you have a different definition of racism.

 

 





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  #2379865 22-Dec-2019 12:31
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Rikkitic:

nathan:

Feel free to correct anything in my tweet that is incorrect.


By your logic, Maori should not be allowed to live in State houses, which also didn't exist in 1840. I think the idea is that pakeha latecomers owe them something for all the rapes, massacres, land confiscations, unjust incarcerations, poor health outcomes and general deprivation as an oppressed minority. But I guess you have a different definition of racism.


 



Undiscovered radio spectrum cannot be taonga

Being branded racist for calling out separatist policies is ridiculous

Your average Maori friends and neighbors won’t see a single cent of this money

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  #2379867 22-Dec-2019 12:34
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Don't put words in my mouth. I did not brand you as racist. I said you appear to have a different idea of racism.

 

 





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  #2379869 22-Dec-2019 12:35
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freitasm:

nathan:


freitasm: What it shows to me is that half of Americans couldn't stand have a woman President after a black President.

They voted Trump because they think an abusive old white man is better than a woman - any woman.




Identity politics is evil. Blaming a loss on your genitalia is a sure fire way to keep on loosing.

Hilary lost because she’s part of the neoliberal elite, part of the corrupt Democratic establishment, part of the status quo that basically did none of the things Obama promised - no transformation, no justice reform, no foreign policy changes, not getting America out of any Wars, Guantanamo is still open


The way you post this it makes it sound like the Republican party is made up of angels that accept all people of the Earth in peace and the opponent, Trump, was God's envoy to Earth.


 


nathan:


Americans voted because they wanted change after 8 years of none.



And yet they voted to change based on a misogynist, religious, racist party with a corrupt and evil candidate. Great change there. 



American voters decided he was the lesser of two evils

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