Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#1667331 10-Nov-2016 13:13

joker97:
oh dear Godwin's law invoked better delete your post quick nunz

Not really, history happened, it must not be denied or hidden we know what that can cause.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1667333 10-Nov-2016 13:14

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It'd be a very strange turn of events if a powerful megalomaniac leader, who on many occasions has incited hatred to gain popular support during his rise, is going to go around the world spreading love and peace.

He's pro-torture and said he'd deliberately "target and kill the families and children" of enemies.

His first plan has been advised, just heard on the news. He has appointed or will do, a climate change sceptic to lead some related function, I didnt catch the detail.

Good to know climate change doesn't now exist for one of the big global producers. Thats a start on the wrong foot less than 24 hours in

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#1667336 10-Nov-2016 13:17

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Russia won the cold war - USA lost it. That's why so many other wars being fought all the time. gotta distract the plebs.

Nope. Russia didn't even exist when the Cold War was on. Given that the USSR and Warsaw Pact were dismembered, it would be difficult to claim that they were the winner.

Wars are more about gaining (or at least not losing) access to resources. USA has an inexhaustible appetite... that is why wars are being fought. There's plenty of circuses to distract the plebs.

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#1667337 10-Nov-2016 13:17

MikeB4:
joker97:

oh dear Godwin's law invoked better delete your post quick nunz

Not really, history happened, it must not be denied or hidden we know what thato can cause.

It doesn't matter because Trump's in and he's going nowhere fast. All those who mocked him, if he is vengeful or becomes vengeful eg under peer pressure by his good friend Putin, there's nothing an online forum in NZ can do about it.

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#1667338 10-Nov-2016 13:18

nunz:

There are a few inescapable things that we know today:

Wow, that's quite some piece there.

So what do you say about one of Hillary's main sponsors George Soros?

I mean, why did she except money from a person who sent his fellow Jews to the gas chambers?

I suspect we are about to find out just how holy and just Hillary, Bill and their foundation are. Assange has a wiki xmas day present for her so I hear.

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#1667341 10-Nov-2016 13:22

wow

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#1667343 10-Nov-2016 13:23

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MikeB4:

Rikkitic:

cynnicallemon

I'm waiting for all these celebs that backed Hillary and swore that if Trump won they would quit the US, to do just that.

Truth is most/all will not as they're leeches with their own financial interests at heart.

Cher said she would rather live on Jupiter - a project for Elon Musk maybe?

So far Trump has been gracious in victory. Not a bad example to follow.

Gracious in words does not equal gracious in actions. His words do not alter the underlining disaster.

Would hate to be one of the millions on Obama Care. It will be gone by lunchtime after he is swarn in. No money or insurance no healthcare..

it wont be that easy if the republicans cancel it they have to find 33 billion [estimate] of taxes that the bill brings in .

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#1667347 10-Nov-2016 13:34

nunz:

There are a few inescapable things that we know today:

1 - USA will vote for a misogynistic, racist, egotistical man who wants to boink his own daughter, a man with a complete apparent lack of moral fibre anywhere, than a woman.

The list was way too long. So I'll just address this one on the assumption that it's the best you've got. And because of Godwin's Law.

He does NOT (as far as anyone really knows) want to boink his own daughter. What he *did* say was that, if she wasn't his daughter, he'd want to boink her. Completely different things. The rest of the disparagement I agree with. But he wouldn't be the first misogynistic, racist, egotistical man to be President. Perhaps the first completely amoral one. But the other side is *not* about being a woman. I'd wager that if Michelle Obama had stood for President, she would have been elected (unless someone dug up a whole heap of dirt). Hillary Clinton is also egotistical, deceitful, and immoral, and as much as anything, that's what brought her down. In fact, I'd argue that you wouldn't run for President if you weren't egotistical, and wouldn't succeed at it if you weren't deceitful.

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#1667348 10-Nov-2016 13:34

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Would hate to be one of the millions on Obama Care. It will be gone by lunchtime after he is swarn in. No money or insurance no healthcare..

I don't think you really get how many people didn't want Obama care in it's current state. They have essentially voted him in because he is promising to do things differently. I think you'd find quite a number of Americans

who believe there should be funded healthcare, which is managed differently. He isn't saying no healthcare, he is saying done differently.

Because he has the house, senate and presidency, there is nothing really, to stop him. America will get what they deserve, and ultimately as proven, what they ACTUALLY want.

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#1667363 10-Nov-2016 13:44

MAGA!

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#1667365 10-Nov-2016 13:47

joker97:

MikeB4:
Fred99:

It'd be a very strange turn of events if a powerful megalomaniac leader, who on many occasions has incited hatred to gain popular support during his rise, is going to go around the world spreading love and peace.

He's pro-torture and said he'd deliberately "target and kill the families and children" of enemies.

The President does not rule alone, the President is not a Dictator.

Not yet.

Actually, he's very close to having all the power of a dictator, with majority in both houses and the ability to stack SCOTUS as he wishes.

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#1667367 10-Nov-2016 13:50

frankv:

nunz:

There are a few inescapable things that we know today:

1 - USA will vote for a misogynistic, racist, egotistical man who wants to boink his own daughter, a man with a complete apparent lack of moral fibre anywhere, than a woman.

The list was way too long. So I'll just address this one on the assumption that it's the best you've got. And because of Godwin's Law.

He does NOT (as far as anyone really knows) want to boink his own daughter. What he *did* say was that, if she wasn't his daughter, he'd want to boink her. Completely different things. The rest of the disparagement I agree with. But he wouldn't be the first misogynistic, racist, egotistical man to be President. Perhaps the first completely amoral one. But the other side is *not* about being a woman. I'd wager that if Michelle Obama had stood for President, she would have been elected (unless someone dug up a whole heap of dirt). Hillary Clinton is also egotistical, deceitful, and immoral, and as much as anything, that's what brought her down. In fact, I'd argue that you wouldn't run for President if you weren't egotistical, and wouldn't succeed at it if you weren't deceitful.

You consider Obama deceitful and egotistical? I mean to a degree it's pretty much how politics works, but I wouldn't have thought of him in those terms primarily.

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#1667368 10-Nov-2016 13:50

networkn:

old3eyes:

Would hate to be one of the millions on Obama Care. It will be gone by lunchtime after he is swarn in. No money or insurance no healthcare..

I don't think you really get how many people didn't want Obama care in it's current state. They have essentially voted him in because he is promising to do things differently. I think you'd find quite a number of Americans

who believe there should be funded healthcare, which is managed differently. He isn't saying no healthcare, he is saying done differently.

Because he has the house, senate and presidency, there is nothing really, to stop him. America will get what they deserve, and ultimately as proven, what they ACTUALLY want.

fair enough but the republicans have nothing to replace it with, if they just cancel it it will leave up to 25 million people suddenly without healthcare and no way to afford private insurance. and these are the same people who voted Trump into power.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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#1667371 10-Nov-2016 13:53

vexxxboy:

fair enough but the republicans have nothing to replace it with, if they just cancel it it will leave up to 25 million people suddenly without healthcare and no way to afford private insurance. and these are the same people who voted Trump into power.

What did Winston Churchill say about the average voter?

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#1667373 10-Nov-2016 13:55

networkn:

You consider Obama deceitful and egotistical? I mean to a degree it's pretty much how politics works, but I wouldn't have thought of him in those terms primarily.

Fire ahead with suggestions of how you see him.

Deceitful and egotistic seem pretty much on the mark to me, at or near the top of a long list of negative attributes he's shown to possess.

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