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#3171251 12-Dec-2023 21:55

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McCarthy later added "you saw in the news the shooter who shot those 120 people at a concert? I think he'll adapt if he realizes that people don't want a mass shooter"

Raw Story: Kevin McCarthy expects Trump to 'adapt' after realizing people don't want a dictator

Former Republican Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy said he expected Donald Trump to "adapt" and discard his authoritarian tendencies when he realizes Americans don't want a dictator.
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"You praise Trump's policies," CBS correspondent Robert Costa noted. "You say he's a good guy. But many Americans, they look at his language, they listen to his speeches, and they hear an authoritarian. Some say even a fascist on the horizon in this country. What do you say to those people who have those real concerns?"

"Look, I don't see that, and this is what I tell President Trump, too," McCarthy responded. "What President Trump needs to do in this campaign, it needs to be about rebuilding, restoring, renewing America. It can't be about revenge."

"He's talking about retribution, day in, day out," Costa observed.

"He needs to stop that," McCarthy insisted. "He needs to stop that."

"You think he's going to listen to you saying, 'Stop that. Stop that'? He hasn't listened to anybody before," the CBS correspondent pointed out.

"That's not true," the former speaker insisted. "He will adapt when he gets all the facts."
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#3171292 13-Dec-2023 06:53

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kingdragonfly: Raw Story: Kevin McCarthy expects Trump to 'adapt' after realizing people don't want a dictator

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#3171294 13-Dec-2023 07:11

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He won't adapt, he doesn't care about anyone but himself.

Jesus, he still bangs on about election fraud over 3 years after the election was lost. He lost all his court cases - yet in his mind the election was 100% stolen from him 🙄

Maybe My Kevin needs to go back to Maralago and kiss the orange buffoon's ring again, like he did after said buffoon attempted a coup.

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#3171295 13-Dec-2023 07:12

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Rikkitic:

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I guess if there's any consolation if he does win again - and there is still that possibility - at least he can't run a second time, although given the shocking events of January 6, 2021 I have no doubt the orange buffoon would try something - anything - to stay in power.

This is a good illustration of my point. As long as people think of him as an 'orange buffoon' they fail to take the threat he poses seriously enough. If he becomes president again, he won't have trouble finding a way to stay in office, either overtly or through proxies. He can take lessons from his friend Putin.

If Trump becomes fuehrer of America, that will directly affect us here in New Zealand and throughout the rest of the world. He may be an American phenomenon, but he will be everyone's problem.

Oh I'm fully understanding of the threat he poses. But I like that description of him as I feel it's quite fitting.

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#3171447 13-Dec-2023 14:22

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quickymart:

He won't adapt, he doesn't care about anyone but himself.

Jesus, he still bangs on about election fraud over 3 years after the election was lost. He lost all his court cases - yet in his mind the election was 100% stolen from him 🙄

Maybe My Kevin needs to go back to Maralago and kiss the orange buffoon's ring again, like he did after said buffoon attempted a coup.

Don't forget Kevin only went to Mar-a-Lardo because he was told Donald 'wasn't eating', so, being a considerate and compassionate guy, Kevin took him a crate of hamberders. Turned out, there was only one thing Trump wasn't eating and that was umble pie, a dish he's hated since his days at the New York Military Academy when he was forced to eat it daily by the matron, a part-time stripper who'd been swindled by his father in a property deal.

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

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#3171530 13-Dec-2023 17:39

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History always repeats itself in waves.

It is currently the turn of the negative half-wave before there can be another positive one. What a monkey house.

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In his promotional video, he describes it as "the most historically significant artifact in United States History"

Take that, Hitler's typewriter, the London Bridge in Arizona, Maine Penny , and other wannabees

New York Magazine Intelligencer: Trump Selling Pieces of His Mug-Shot Suit Is Weird on So Many Levels

A year ago, Trump released a batch of trading cards that depicted him as, among other things, a superhero, an astronaut, and an old-timey western gunslinger. These were both figuratively and literally unrealistic: Buyers got a digital NFT, not a physical card.

In his third release, the most recent, pieces of the One True Suit will be shipped on actual cards you can hold in your hand; ... he has hacked up his mug-shot suit.

The NFTs are key to this sales pitch because you have to buy 47 digital cards to get the one physical card. As with the first two batches of Trump cards, these NFTs are $99 a pop. So it’ll cost you $4,653 to get a piece of Trump’s suit.
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: McCarthy later added "you saw in the news the shooter who shot those 120 people at a concert? I think he'll adapt if he realizes that people don't want a mass shooter"

This is getting worse and worse.

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#3171585 13-Dec-2023 20:19

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: McCarthy later added "you saw in the news the shooter who shot those 120 people at a concert? I think he'll adapt if he realizes that people don't want a mass shooter"

This is getting worse and worse.

Sorry. Poe's law in action. the article is real; my parody was in jest. From Dictionary.com

Poe’s Law is named after Nathan Poe, an agnostic user on the message board Christian Forums who posted in 2005:

“POES LAW: Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone wont mistake for the genuine article.”

In a thread debating creationism, Poe wrote this in response to a comment: “Good thing you included the winky. Otherwise people might think you are serious.”

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#3171618 13-Dec-2023 22:07

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Ok, don't do that. I had to go back and fact check. This one was real:

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Salon: Jack Smith wants to use Trump's Twitter account and phone data to track his steps on Jan. 6

Special counsel Jack Smith has obtained Donald Trump's cell phone data from his time in the White House and plans to use it as prosecutorial evidence as part of the former president's election subversion trial in D.C., a Monday filing shows.

In the court filing, Smith stated that he intends to present the expert witness who pulled and copied the data from Trump's phone and a phone from an unidentified MAGA ally.

As noted in the filing, Smith's team anticipates that the expert will observe to jurors how they

"extracted and processed data from the White House cell phones used by the defendant and one other individual (Individual 1);
reviewed and analyzed data on the defendant’s phone and on Individual 1’s phone, including analyzing images found on the phones and websites visited;
determined the usage of these phones throughout the post-election period, including on and around January 6, 2021; and
specifically identified the periods of time during which the defendant’s phone was unlocked and the Twitter application was open on January 6.

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In January, Smith's team of prosecutors secured a search warrant for Trump's X/Twitter account, asking the company to keep the information secret from the former president. Trump was suspended from Twitter in the days following the Capitol insurrection.
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Raw Story: Kevin McCarthy expects Trump to 'adapt' after realizing people don't want a dictator

Former Republican Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy said he expected Donald Trump to "adapt" and discard his authoritarian tendencies when he realizes Americans don't want a dictator....

To be clear this was a real quote from an interview on CBS' Sunday Morning program.

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The Washington Post - The 5-Minute Fix (condensed)

The Supreme Court said this week it will consider whether Donald Trump can be prosecuted at all for his actions as president.

They’re considering Trump’s defense in the Jan. 6 case specifically.

Trump has argued that he’s immune from prosecution for actions taken while he was president.

The justices have three major options :

Wins for Trump :

1. The court could decide that Trump is immune from prosecution.

This could mean Trump wouldn’t have to face trial in the Jan. 6 case, or perhaps his other cases.

2. Or the court could decide not to weigh in at all.

That could have the effect of delaying Trump’s trial, because this side argument about presidential immunity could play out in lower courts for months.

A win for special counsel Jack Smith :

3. The court could decide that Trump is not immune from prosecution.

That means the Jan. 6 trial would happen in March, during the height of the Republican primaries.

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This would be hilarious if it wasn't so deadly serious. The new speaker of the US House of Representatives, Mike Johnson, who is legally, third in line to the Presidency of the United States, should anything happen to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, has been told by God that he, Mike Johnson, will soon experience a "Moses-like moment". Mike Johnson has taken this to mean that he has been chosen to take a leadership role in some climactic future event.

Check out this short David Pakman clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q977CTRUJ8Y&ab_channel=DavidPakmanShow

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Reuters - Yes, Trump can win the 2024 election. Here are four reasons why.

WASHINGTON, Dec 12 (Reuters) - Trump leads his rivals for the Republican presidential nomination by nearly 50 percentage points in national opinion polls, a remarkable comeback for a one-term president who three years ago appeared vanquished and humiliated.

Here are four reasons why Trump could win the November 2024 election :

1. UNHAPPY VOTERS

The Biden White House argues the economy is in good shape, with unemployment down to a near-historic low of 3.9% from 6.3% when Trump left office and inflation cooling from a peak over 9% in June 2022 to 3.2% as of October.

Large swaths of the public, including many voters of color and young voters, believe otherwise. They point to wages not keeping pace with the costs of essential goods and services such as groceries, cars, houses, child and elder care.

2. SPEAKING TO FEAR

Voters are unsettled for reasons that extend far beyond the economy. Trump speaks to the worries, real or not, that many white Americans have in a country that is becoming increasingly diverse and more culturally progressive.

3. TRUMP'S ACTIONS ARE NOT DISQUALIFYING FOR MANY VOTERS

While critics within his own party, the Democratic Party and the media view him as unfit for office, millions of voters disagree. Instead, many of his supporters have become convinced that Trump is a victim of a political witch hunt.

4. BIDEN GETS ALL THE BLAME, NO CREDIT

Trump can also take advantage of a White House that, so far, has been unable to persuade much of the public that Biden’s job-creation policies have made a difference to their lives.

Biden also has been saddled with a pair of foreign wars that have divided Americans.

None of this, of course, means Trump is certain to win the election. ... but at this moment, Trump stands a better chance of returning to the White House than at any point since he left office.

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