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#2017522 17-May-2018 11:36

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A simple observation from the various stories of poverty, homelessness etc splashed across the news is that they are single parents. Not invariably, but seemingly from the anecdotes the media chooses to share, this seems to be a thread running through them.

food for thought.

Their marital status does not matter.

If you can't afford childcare costs then getting into the workforce for enough hours to make it worthwhile or study becomes impossible. It's quite relevant but I suspect not for the reason rjt123 is implying.

I wasn't implying any religious viewpoint in this post. Simply making the observation.

Should there be more responsibility on the absent partner? Having kids is no light matter. If you're a partner to it, it's a committal for life, whether or not you're married, or broken up they're still your kids, your responsibility.

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#2017566 17-May-2018 11:50

drugs, unwedded with children, anything else on the agenda today? drinking too much coca cola? seems like a bit much for this topic. I'm sure the list will be long.

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#2017573 17-May-2018 12:05

rjt123:
GV27:

MikeB4:

rjt123:

A simple observation from the various stories of poverty, homelessness etc splashed across the news is that they are single parents. Not invariably, but seemingly from the anecdotes the media chooses to share, this seems to be a thread running through them.

food for thought.

Their marital status does not matter.

If you can't afford childcare costs then getting into the workforce for enough hours to make it worthwhile or study becomes impossible. It's quite relevant but I suspect not for the reason rjt123 is implying.

I wasn't implying any religious viewpoint in this post. Simply making the observation.

Should there be more responsibility on the absent partner? Having kids is no light matter. If you're a partner to it, it's a committal for life, whether or not you're married, or broken up they're still your kids, your responsibility.

Remember many have deceased partners etc. It never is straight forward

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#2017579 17-May-2018 12:09

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Remember many have deceased partners etc. It never is straight forward

Oh no doubt it's complicated.

Which is why it's complicated to say where the state's responsibility starts and stops.

As I have said before, decentralization would solve a lot of of problems. Which is where Shane Jones' regional fund should be directed towards.

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#2017604 17-May-2018 12:40

rjt123:
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Remember many have deceased partners etc. It never is straight forward

Oh no doubt it's complicated.

Which is why it's complicated to say where the state's responsibility starts and stops.

As I have said before, decentralization would solve a lot of of problems. Which is where Shane Jones' regional fund should be directed towards.

Centralisation of the 70s and 80s has created a lot of the mess we have now, not just financial but social upheaval. To change it will require leadership, financial resources, open minds and commitment, but, no one will go first. Again it is complicated as teh build it and they will come idea does not always work but it is worth a try. Maybe instead of building yet another motorway or suburb we use that money to move businesses to say the Bay of Plenty, Wairarapa, Taranaki, Nelson, Blenheim South Canterbury. Where they originally came from.

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#2017609 17-May-2018 12:46

MikeB4:
rjt123:
MikeB4:

Remember many have deceased partners etc. It never is straight forward

Oh no doubt it's complicated.

Which is why it's complicated to say where the state's responsibility starts and stops.

As I have said before, decentralization would solve a lot of of problems. Which is where Shane Jones' regional fund should be directed towards.

Centralisation of the 70s and 80s has created a lot of the mess we have now, not just financial but social upheaval. To change it will require leadership, financial resources, open minds and commitment, but, no one will go first. Again it is complicated as teh build it and they will come idea does not always work but it is worth a try. Maybe instead of building yet another motorway or suburb we use that money to move businesses to say the Bay of Plenty, Wairarapa, Taranaki, Nelson, Blenheim South Canterbury. Where they originally came from.

Or better still, build the motorways to connect the regions.

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#2017614 17-May-2018 12:54

Doing that would mean that many businesses would expect staff to commute which of course would be by car. We need to encourage employment growth in the regions not put more cars on regional routes. We need a better rail infrastructure and legislation requiring goods that travel greater than 100km to be transported by rail with the exception of urgent and airfreight.

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#2017653 17-May-2018 14:33

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legislation requiring goods that travel greater than 100km to be transported by rail with the exception of urgent and airfreight.

Given the outcome of that policy in the 1980's, it is completely unconscionable for the state to intervene again in such a manner.

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#2017690 17-May-2018 14:44

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legislation requiring goods that travel greater than 100km to be transported by rail with the exception of urgent and airfreight.

Given the outcome of that policy in the 1980's, it is completely unconscionable for the state to intervene again in such a manner.

Why? we are facing a huge environmental catastrophe, moving goods up and down this country by massive toxic trucks is stupid. If we were to decentralise then the last thing we want is more trucks on our roads.The best way to move them is by train between rail heads. It is the Governments role to protect and secure its people therefore it is not unreasonable for it to legislate to bring around this change.

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#2017693 17-May-2018 14:49

A good start would be reversing the oil exploration ban and ditch any notion of limiting cow numbers and that keep the regions going.

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#2017696 17-May-2018 14:54

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/103991725/nz-first-gets-tax-change-for-race-horse-investors-through-the-gates

I see NZF is actually Winston first. Though if you are surprised by this your eyes weren't open.

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#2017697 17-May-2018 14:57

WTF, horses over people, NZ First should be Bollocks First

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#2017742 17-May-2018 15:35

Based on this budget the NZ Green Party should pull out of its agreement with the Labour NZ First Coalition and form a coalition with National. They have been well and truly shafted in this budget.

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#2017744 17-May-2018 15:41

MikeB4:

Based on this budget the NZ Green Party should pull out of its agreement with the Labour NZ First Coalition and form a coalition with National. They have been well and truly shafted in this budget.

James Shaw called it the Greenest Budget ever and said he was pretty much delighted about it. (But then I consider him a very poor Leader).

I agree the Greens and National would be ok together. Sadly they are far far too short-sighted and militant to do that for the next while at least.

The Greens could have done so much better this past election, but they were too meek to flex their muscles.

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#2017749 17-May-2018 15:47

Green budget yeah right what ever black and red makes is what it was. Peters gets over $1Billion. To fund a move towards a low carbon economy $100Million

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