Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#3180165 10-Jan-2024 19:00

Roger Stone apparently on tape suggesting nasty accidents for members of the house judiciary commitee and kidnapping for a russiagate prosecutor:

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/exclusive-roger-stone-spoke-with-cop-pal-about-assassinating-eric-swalwell-and-jerry-nadler/

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#3180186 10-Jan-2024 19:57

Rikkitic:

I was really wondering about Jack Smith's shapeshift, which goes way beyond just the missing beard! Thanks for pointing it out.

Still looks like Jordan Peterson's twin (to me) 😀

Also - this sounds like a (blatantly obvious) threat: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2024-01-09/donald-trump-dc-circuit-immunity-argument-intimidation-jan-6 but with a possible(?) glimmer of hope:

The former president refused to rule out violence if the appeals court’s decision goes against him, as he appears to think it will.

“It’ll be bedlam in the country,” Trump told reporters. “It’s the opening of a Pandora’s box.”

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But polls show that if Trump is convicted of a crime before the election, his prospects of returning to the White House will drop to Earth like the meteor said to have extinguished the dinosaurs. And if he is tried, he is virtually certain to be convicted. The evidence Smith’s team has compiled against him is beyond overwhelming.

(I note that Jack Smith appears to be fully bearded in this rendering?)

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#3180194 10-Jan-2024 20:05

Rikkitic:

I was really wondering about Jack Smith's shapeshift, which goes way beyond just the missing beard! Thanks for pointing it out.

MSNBC has Jack Smith as the guy behind the speaker with the bluish jacket. Thr guy with the beard!

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#3180329 11-Jan-2024 07:48

https://newrepublic.com/post/177953/trump-lawyer-alina-habba-tries-defend-murdering-rivals-ok-argument

I hope she's looking forward to being paid the, well, nothing that Trump is going to pay her when he certainly loses this case. And this commentary is from a Republican outlet too.

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#3180338 11-Jan-2024 08:19

The New Republic - Here’s the List of Things Trump Can’t Say at the Next E. Jean Carroll Trial

10 Jan 2024

A federal judge on Tuesday set strict limitations on what Donald Trump and his attorneys can say during the former president’s upcoming trial for defaming the writer E. Jean Carroll.

Case 1:20-cv-07311-LAK document 252, page 27

Defendant and his counsel are precluded, in the presence of the jury, from offering any evidence, argument, or comments:

a. Concerning plaintiff's choice of counsel ...
b. Concerning litigation funding
c. Concerning DNA *
d. Concerning Ms. Carroll's past romantic relationships, sexual disposition, and prior sexual experiences
e. Suggesting or implying that Mr. Trump did not sexually abuse Carroll ...

* Judge Kaplan ruled that both sides would be "precluded from any testimony, argument, commentary or reference concerning DNA evidence" during the trial.

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#3180362 11-Jan-2024 09:14

The Week - Is Trump's immunity case DOA (and does that matter)?

11 Dec 2024

Lawyers for the former president insist he's immune from criminal prosecution for anything he did in office - but winning the legal argument might not be the point. ...

Trump's legal argument for criminal immunity can reasonably be distilled down to "when you're a president, they let you do it." ...

The former president seems to be trying to have it both ways ... During his second impeachment trial, Trump and his allies claimed that should he be acquitted "he would face criminal prosecution later"; he's now arguing that "he shouldn’t have to face prosecution, either."

While the case is set to go to trial in March, protracted litigation could push it back - perhaps even beyond the November election.

That is the real point of the immunity dispute, which Trump's lawyers hope will "run out the clock" before election day.

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#3180368 11-Jan-2024 09:24

Let's hope that Biden wins then. Yes, I know he's old, and yes I know he's unpopular - but Trump isn't exactly the messiah (too many) Americans think he is, either.

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#3180374 11-Jan-2024 09:33

linw:

Rikkitic:

I was really wondering about Jack Smith's shapeshift, which goes way beyond just the missing beard! Thanks for pointing it out.

MSNBC has Jack Smith as the guy behind the speaker with the bluish jacket. Thr guy with the beard!

Nah, that's definitely Jordan Peterson.

'Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.' Voltaire

'A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.' Edward Abbey

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#3180381 11-Jan-2024 09:43

quickymart: Let's hope that Biden wins then. Yes, I know he's old, and yes I know he's unpopular - but Trump isn't exactly the messiah (too many) Americans think he is, either.

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#3180402 11-Jan-2024 10:29

Oho. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/10/biden-trump-neck-and-neck-pennsylvania-poll-00134821

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#3180410 11-Jan-2024 10:44

quickymart:
https://newrepublic.com/post/177953/trump-lawyer-alina-habba-tries-defend-murdering-rivals-ok-argument

I hope she's looking forward to being paid the, well, nothing that Trump is going to pay her when he certainly loses this case. And this commentary is from a Republican outlet too.

Trump lawyer: “The real facts are so easy to win that we have to now argue the slippery slope argument of, ‘If he kills someone, will he be held accountable?’”

I hate to break it to her, but a "slippery slope" argument starts with something innocuous

1) For the want of a nail, a shoe was lost

2) for the want of a shoe, a horse was lost

3) for the want of a horse, a rider was lost

4) for the want of a rider, a battle was lost

I guess in Trump's lawyer mind the slippery slope should be

1) someone murders someone and is held accountable

2) prisoner goes to jail, and public sees justice is done

3) public sees justice is done, and want more.

4) earth falls into sun (???)

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#3180419 11-Jan-2024 11:17

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/10/chris-christie-republican-presidential-race-00134875

I guess Trump will be over the moon with this news. Or not, as now Nikki Haley will probably do the best out of this:

https://abcnews.go.com/538/stands-gain-desantis-drops-haley-christie/story?id=106101489

Ironically, Christie was saying the other day (in the link I posted) that he wouldn't drop out. Maybe he's seen the writing on the wall?

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#3180540 11-Jan-2024 12:59

If there was an Award for "Idiot of the Week" Trump would need a large Island to store them all!

Courtesty of Stephen Colbert.

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#3180541 11-Jan-2024 13:01

The Daily Beast - Trump’s Plan to Deliver Fraud Trial’s Closing Speech Falls Apart

10 Jan 2024

Donald Trump, ever the showman, did everything he could to turn his three-month New York bank fraud trial into a circus.

And he intended to finish off this spectacle with a little less P. T. Barnum and a little more Perry Mason, dramatically closing the case on Thursday by making the exceedingly rare - and ill-advised - decision to deliver his own closing arguments.

On Wednesday, just a day before the last scheduled hearing in the case, court filings revealed how talks completely broke down between Trump’s lawyers and Justice Arthur F. Engoron. ...

Emails filed in court show that the judge tentatively approved Trump’s request that he make a formal appearance in court to make the case’s final argument on his own - as long as he’d follow the same rules his defense lawyers would.

[Christopher Kise, Trump lawyer] : “That is very unfair, your Honor. You are not allowing President Trump, who has been wrongfully demeaned and belittled by an out of control, politically motivated Attorney General, to speak about the things that must be spoken about.”

But the judge wouldn’t have it.

“Dear Mr. Kise,” he wrote back midday Wednesday, “I won’t debate this yet again. Take it or leave it. Now or never. You have until noon, seven minutes from now. I WILL NOT GRANT ANY FURTHER EXTENSIONS.”

When Kise didn’t respond, the judge officially nixed the whole misadventure.

“Not having heard from you by the third extended deadline (noon today), I assume that Mr. Trump will not agree to the reasonable, lawful limits I have imposed as a precondition to giving a closing statement above and beyond those given by his attorneys, and that, therefore, he will not be speaking in court tomorrow,” Engoron wrote.

Just the right judge to cope with Baby Trump. HE EVEN USES TRUMP CAPITALS. 🙂

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#3180562 11-Jan-2024 13:36

msukiwi:
If there was an Award for "Idiot of the Week" Trump would need a large Island to store them all!

Courtesty of Stephen Colbert.

There's another layer to this video. Trump is wearing makeup from the "Insane Clown Posse" an American hip hop duo.

The fans from "Insane Clown Posse" are called Juggalo.

The Juggalo are as strange as the Trump supporters ... BUT, and it's an important but, they constantly talk about peace and love, and acceptance. In particular they don't care about sexual preferences.

If you're interested in the strangeness, search Youtube for "Gathering of the Juggalos 2021 - What is a Juggalo ?" Lots of rough language. NSFW.

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