Rikkitic:

I just saw on RNZ that Obama has commuted the prison sentence of Chelsea Manning! Also an item that Wikileaks has said Assange would agree to extradition if this happened! I don't mean to hijack this thread but I feel these events are now intertwined with Trump's presidency. Does anyone know more/have comments?

  

gzt:

Rikkitic:

 

I just saw on RNZ that Obama has commuted the prison sentence of Chelsea Manning! Also an item that Wikileaks has said Assange would agree to extradition if this happened! I don't mean to hijack this thread but I feel these events are now intertwined with Trump's presidency. Does anyone know more/have comments?

 

 

 

  

 

Manning has served 7 years of a 35 year sentence.

From memory that is in military prison and also from memory things like arbitrary solitary confinement and generally less access and so on when compared to civilian prison.

With the commutation it's now 4 months left.

It's a commutation but not as Manning got off scott free there.

I agree with the republicans...this guy/gal committed treason and it wasnt that long ago he/she would be dead already. I realise what he/she brought to the surface needed to be...but it would have come out on its own eventually...truth always comes out. 

I have no time for selfish people who put their colleagues in harms way.

Pumpedd:I realise what he/she brought to the surface needed to be...but it would have come out on its own eventually...truth always comes out.

Documents don't walk themselves over to the fax machine in the middle of the night and send themselves to the Washington Post.

It usually takes a whistleblower for the truth to come out because these things are usually classified. As long as they are classified, the only way for them to "come out" is for them to be leaked...by a whistleblower.

The Guardian: Bradley Manning leak did not result in deaths by enemy forces, court hears

Pumpedd:

 

I agree with the republicans...this guy/gal committed treason and it wasnt that long ago he/she would be dead already.

 

Republicans? Oh you mean the masters of double standards?

What about playing the 'Team America' song?

DarthKermit:

 

What about playing the 'Team America' song?

 

How about the Tool "Swamp Song" - lyrics

" ... You're wading knee deep and going in.
And you may never come back again. ... "

So um, this article.

Sounds like he has been in contact with the trump administration. I mean announcing he will definitely follow through 24 hours before the US gets Donald.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/88599959/julian-assange-says-he-will-go-to-the-us-now-chelsea-manning-is-being-released

ajobbins:

Rikkitic:

I just saw on RNZ that Obama has commuted the prison sentence of Chelsea Manning! Also an item that Wikileaks has said Assange would agree to extradition if this happened! I don't mean to hijack this thread but I feel these events are now intertwined with Trump's presidency. Does anyone know more/have comments?

The latest tweet from Wikileaks suggests to me he may actually make good on his promise to allow the US to extradite him. It seems insane to me to volunteer to do this, unless of course there is some agreement in place whereby he is guaranteed presidential pardon by Trump.

Perhaps Wikileaks has serious dirt on Trump they are willing to withhold in exchange for full presidential pardon. Maybe it's the rumored video takes, if they do indeed exist. 

Assange is confident of winning any fair trial in the US. Obama's DoJ prevented public interest defense & fair jury. https://t.co/Mb6gXlz7QS

— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) January 17, 2017

So I am hoping that Trump does in fact, do some of what he promised that I actually liked during the pre-elections: 

1) Limit the terms of elected officials. 

2) Do more for Veterans (I think the US treats it's vets very poorly overall).

3) Put an end to Foreign Lobbying.

I wasn't too worried about the TPP, I see it as a good thing overall for us, as we lose what was "bad" and probably Trump will be too busy to bother with the threats the USA made if they didn't get the TPP signed.

I thought the article today outlining the transition methods between new and old President at the white house was very interesting. 

networkn: I thought the article today outlining the transition methods between new and old President at the white house was very interesting. 

 

Meanwhile I read an article where White House people say they have not been contacted by their replacements - of which very few exist - and have not passed information on how to do their current work.

Wait for things to come to a halt.

freitasm:

 

networkn: I thought the article today outlining the transition methods between new and old President at the white house was very interesting. 

 

 

Meanwhile I read an article where White House people say they have not been contacted by their replacements - of which very few exist - and have not passed information on how to do their current work.

 

Wait for things to come to a halt.

 

I don't think many people expect any incoming President to be properly settled or productive for a few weeks. I agree it looks bad, but I guess let's see how things pan out.

The process for switching the residences over is pretty finely tuned usually though, it would be interesting to have been part of that. Time Lapse video would have been super cool.