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  #1707529 22-Jan-2017 17:12
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networkn:

 

I'd like to see him stop with the exaggerating ASAP, it's pretty unbecoming.

 

 

Those of us who are opposed to Trump, are (in part) opposed to Trump because we don't believe this will ever happen. IMV, he *must* continually feed his ego and be the best President *ever*. Being second-best cannot be envisaged; that gets translated into a need to be best at *everything*.

 

 

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  #1707534 22-Jan-2017 17:21
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frankv:

networkn:


I'd like to see him stop with the exaggerating ASAP, it's pretty unbecoming.



Those of us who are opposed to Trump, are (in part) opposed to Trump because we don't believe this will ever happen. IMV, he *must* continually feed his ego and be the best President *ever*. Being second-best cannot be envisaged; that gets translated into a need to be best at *everything*.


 



That's the issue . He had no experience but if he applied himself he could be a breath of fresh air but he can't for the reasons you stated . Factor in his inept cabinet choices, his mouth, it off course won't happen . He could stand back and be the spokesman for the GOP but that won't happen either. I don't subscribe to the WW3 attitude but imho he will be inept and embarrass the US and show the world lets exclude them where we can

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  #1707537 22-Jan-2017 17:26
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tdgeek:
frankv:

networkn:


I'd like to see him stop with the exaggerating ASAP, it's pretty unbecoming.



Those of us who are opposed to Trump, are (in part) opposed to Trump because we don't believe this will ever happen. IMV, he *must* continually feed his ego and be the best President *ever*. Being second-best cannot be envisaged; that gets translated into a need to be best at *everything*.


 



That's the issue . He had no experience but if he applied himself he could be a breath of fresh air but he can't for the reasons you stated . Factor in his inept cabinet choices, his mouth, it off course won't happen . He could stand back and be the spokesman for the GOP but that won't happen either. I don't subscribe to the WW3 attitude but imho he will be inept and embarrass the US and show the world lets exclude them where we can


He has made some interesting choices, the Defence secretary is an interesting choice. Reading some of James Mattis (mad dog) quotes you would think he is related to George Patton.




Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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  #1707539 22-Jan-2017 17:28
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MikeB4:

He has made some interesting choices, the Defence secretary is an interesting choice. Reading some of James Mattis (mad dog) quotes you would think he is related to George Patton.

 

Not to mention Education (a dyed-in-the-wool opponent of the public education system) and Environment (climate change denier).

 

 

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  #1707583 22-Jan-2017 19:10
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The most qualified Cabinet in US history. Just kidding.

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  #1707604 22-Jan-2017 19:34
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dejadeadnz: The most qualified Cabinet in US history. Just kidding.

 

Yes, I agree. I read another like this yesterday, but not as many personnel as your link. As I said earlier here or elsewhere, if I was POTUS and not experienced I would surround myself with top top people. How Trump can hope to get his name in history books (in a good way) with a line up like this is beyond me. 

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  #1707614 22-Jan-2017 20:12
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networkn:

 

DjShadow:

 

I just watched Donald's Press Sec give his first briefing, pretty much a yelling/screaming match saying all the media is wrong about crowd sizes yet the photos look pretty obvious to me

 

I can see Press Freedom being a problem

 

 

It's amazing to me that he feels compelled to even make a big deal about it. Lots of people came, he could thank them for their attendance for whatever reason they chose, and make some comment about the passion in the country.

 

The fact it wasn't the biggest crowd ever.. meh. I keep hoping the weight of the office and the position will eventually get him to stop talking and start doing, but hopes are fading quickly. 

 

I keep hoping the weight of the office and the position will eventually get him to stop talking and start doing, but hopes are fading quickly. 

 

I'd like to see him stop with the exaggerating ASAP, it's pretty unbecoming.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He almost verges on the edges of being a psychopath. Everything has to be about him...has to be. The biggest day of his life(or its meant to be), an achievement less than 50 people have ever succeeded in and he has to lie and make up BS to detract from the occasion. I would hope that the Republican Party have a plan they can implement soon.

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  #1707646 22-Jan-2017 20:30
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Trump's checklist:

 

 

Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.

 

The 14 characteristics are:

 

     

  1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
    Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

  2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
    Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

  3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
    The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

  4. Supremacy of the Military
    Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

  5. Rampant Sexism
    The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

  6. Controlled Mass Media
    Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

  7. Obsession with National Security
    Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

  8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
    Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

  9. Corporate Power is Protected
    The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

  10. Labor Power is Suppressed
    Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .

  11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
    Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

  12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
    Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

  13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
    Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

  14. Fraudulent Elections
    Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

 

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  #1707653 22-Jan-2017 20:42
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http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2017/01/politics/trump-inauguration-gigapixel/

 

The link above is for the CNN interactive picture of the inauguration. What I found interesting was the size of the crowd,it didn't seem like the picture comparing Obamas and Trumps inauguration crowds from yesterday. 

 

A good game to play is spot the secret agent man 

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  #1707660 22-Jan-2017 21:07
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That is due to the angle the photo was taken at. If you zoom in you can see a lot of blank spaces behind each crowd grouping. This is a timelapse of the crowds before and during the event, definitely lots of space left over.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?PdantUf5tXg

 

 

 

Quite an amazing high res photo though. That bullet proof glass is thick.

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  #1707678 22-Jan-2017 21:26
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mattwnz:

 

That is due to the angle the photo was taken at. If you zoom in you can see a lot of blank spaces behind each crowd grouping. This is a timelapse of the crowds before and during the event, definitely lots of space left over.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?PdantUf5tXg

 

 

 

Quite an amazing high res photo though. That bullet proof glass is thick.

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/01/20/us/politics/trump-inauguration-crowd.html?_r=0

 

You would have to say though it doesn't look much like the picture at the nytimes.

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  #1707702 22-Jan-2017 21:38
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Fred99:

 

Trump's checklist:

 

 

Political scientist Dr. Lawrence Britt recently wrote an article about fascism ("Fascism Anyone?," Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20). Studying the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile), Dr. Britt found they all had 14 elements in common. He calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The excerpt is in accordance with the magazine's policy.

 

The 14 characteristics are:  <snip>

 

 

 

Another relevant checklist:

 

Narcissistic personality disorder

DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder include these features:

    Having an exaggerated sense of self-importance
    Expecting to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
    Exaggerating your achievements and talents
    Being preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
    Believing that you are superior and can only be understood by or associate with equally special people
    Requiring constant admiration
    Having a sense of entitlement
    Expecting special favors and unquestioning compliance with your expectations
    Taking advantage of others to get what you want
    Having an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
    Being envious of others and believing others envy you
    Behaving in an arrogant or haughty manner




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  #1707709 22-Jan-2017 22:20
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A bare-faced dirty liar - working for the liar in chief:

 

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/sean-spicer-inauguration-statement-lies

 

 

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  #1707710 22-Jan-2017 22:22
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Never mind. The lack of people at Herr Trump's inauguration was made up for by the number of people protesting about him the day after.

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  #1707740 22-Jan-2017 22:39
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DarthKermit:

 

Never mind. The lack of people at Herr Trump's inauguration was made up for by the number of people protesting about him the day after.

 

 

Mass hallucination at the inauguration.  Those attending who truly weren't figments of Trump's imagination thought the emperor was wearing a new suit.

 

The Party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears.

 

(George Orwell : "1984")

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