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#3503355 15-Jun-2026 19:43

Handle9: This law news opinion piece better describes why the law society was concerned by this case. The actual decision is a sideshow but a regulator unilaterally deciding to extend its powers is genuinely chilling.

https://lawnews.nz/administrative-public/staying-within-the-lines-over-reach-from-the-broadcasting-standards-authority-and-how-it-can-be-fixed/

I am very sympathetic to that point of view. In fact I believe it is the correct one.

Imo the reason the issue has not been addressed is the non-technical nature of most politicians failing to fully realise the growing reality of online corporate media organisations using internet radio and internet tv to reach an audience.

On the other hand The Broadcasting Act does clearly anticipate advances in technology. Ie; "broadcasting means any transmission of programmes, whether or not encrypted, by radio waves or other means of telecommunication for reception by the public by means of broadcasting receiving apparatus. The BSA was brave and perhaps unwise to step away from the legal consensus.

Abolishing the BSA without consensus is extreme trumpy overreach. Considering the number of things passed under parliamentary urgency this term a short amendment to kick the issue down the road again pending further study would have been a more appropriate response.

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#3503358 15-Jun-2026 20:11

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Handle9: This law news opinion piece better describes why the law society was concerned by this case. The actual decision is a sideshow but a regulator unilaterally deciding to extend its powers is genuinely chilling.

https://lawnews.nz/administrative-public/staying-within-the-lines-over-reach-from-the-broadcasting-standards-authority-and-how-it-can-be-fixed/

I am very sympathetic to that point of view. In fact I believe it is the correct one.

Imo the reason the issue has not been addressed is the non-technical nature of most politicians failing to fully realise the growing reality of online corporate media organisations using internet radio and internet tv to reach an audience.

On the other hand The Broadcasting Act does clearly anticipate advances in technology. Ie; "broadcasting means any transmission of programmes, whether or not encrypted, by radio waves or other means of telecommunication for reception by the public by means of broadcasting receiving apparatus. The BSA was brave and perhaps unwise to step away from the legal consensus.

Abolishing the BSA without consensus is extreme trumpy overreach. Considering the number of things passed under parliamentary urgency this term a short amendment to kick the issue down the road again pending further study would have been a more appropriate response.

The legal consensus, and until recently the position of the BSA, is that parliament did not consider internet broadcasting. I think this has been kicked down the road as no one has a great solution. OFCOM, which is the nearest international example, is a bit of a shit show. At the least it would have required a massive increase in funding of the replacement agency.

It's not at all "Trumpian overeach"." It's parliament doing what it is empowered to do. It's not ruling by fiat or doing anything it's not allowed to do. Replacing one agency with another is normal business of government.

This is a straight political decision and certainly deserves plenty of criticism rather than positioning it as some sort of nefarious plot.

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#3503360 15-Jun-2026 20:17

Davey puts his foot in it:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360993152/are-you-ready-accept-youve-just-had-beating-seymour-apologises-lashing-out-woman-questioning-mp

A woman who says she escaped a violent relationship and has ongoing post traumatic stress disorder has received an apology from Deputy Prime Minister David Seymour after he emailed her saying, “Are you ready to accept you’ve just had a beating?”

The woman had emailed Seymour to express dissatisfaction about ACT MP and Children’s Minister Karen Chhour spending nearly $17,000 on airport parking, and Seymour’s response had little tolerance for her questions.

While I accept that he was probably frustrated by the exchange, I don't quite think that exact wording in his response was necessary.

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#3503367 15-Jun-2026 20:33

Handle9: It's not at all "Trumpian overeach"." It's parliament doing what it is empowered to do. It's not ruling by fiat or doing anything it's not allowed to do. Replacing one agency with another is normal business of government. This is a straight political decision and certainly deserves plenty of criticism rather than positioning it as some sort of nefarious plot.

and like many other things it will probably be dealt with under urgency provisions.

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#3503370 15-Jun-2026 20:57

gzt:
Handle9: It's not at all "Trumpian overeach"." It's parliament doing what it is empowered to do. It's not ruling by fiat or doing anything it's not allowed to do. Replacing one agency with another is normal business of government. This is a straight political decision and certainly deserves plenty of criticism rather than positioning it as some sort of nefarious plot.

and like many other things it will probably be dealt with under urgency provisions.

Yeah and it's a shitty way of doing business. The way to change it is vote them out but I'm not hopeful that the process will be any better under a different government.

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#3503371 15-Jun-2026 20:59

Handle9:

This is a straight political decision and certainly deserves plenty of criticism rather than positioning it as some sort of nefarious plot.

100%. Given how crucial and dominant streaming will become, a well-resourced regulator with specialist knowledge is the best way forward, not a legacy one that self-appoints itself (possibly to justify its own existence, although that hasn't worked out well for them).

Although if we want to go down this road, we should take the opportunity to fold political advertising under the ASA so that campaign messaging can't be just outright misleadng. Tie that in with the costing agency/function for new policy evaluation (i.e. does it do and cost what you're claiming it will do) and watch the change in NZ politics happen overnight.

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#3503402 15-Jun-2026 21:49

Luxon's fiscal hole: dismantling all our (relatively weak but making progress) climate change programs hands us a $5B bill. And it looks like they're winding up to take us out of the Paris agreement as election policy. Could be tricky for our free trade deals, but that's probably Labour's fault.

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#3503403 15-Jun-2026 21:53

Climate change - Someone else's problem apparently.

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#3503409 15-Jun-2026 22:17

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Luxon's fiscal hole: dismantling all our (relatively weak but making progress) climate change programs hands us a $5B bill. And it looks like they're winding up to take us out of the Paris agreement as election policy. Could be tricky for our free trade deals, but that's probably Labour's fault.

Many countries are quietly backing out of their Paris commitments. Given only 7% submitted their NDCs on time it’s fair to say Paris trade commitments will end up getting quietly ignored.

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#3503410 15-Jun-2026 22:18

Handle9: Yeah and it's a shitty way of doing business. The way to change it is vote them out but I'm not hopeful that the process will be any better under a different government.

Apparently it's even worse than that with the current government. Substantial new clauses almost routinely introduced into legislation after select committee meaning the intended period for public notification and public submission doesn't happen at all.

https://newsroom.co.nz/2026/06/12/govts-sneaky-alternative-to-urgency-for-skipping-select-committee/

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#3503411 15-Jun-2026 22:18

gzt: Climate change - Someone else's problem apparently.

The quiet reality is it’s someone else’s solution. New Zealand’s emissions per person are fairly significant but unless the large economies do their bit New Zealand will have approximately zero impact on climate change either way.

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#3503412 15-Jun-2026 22:19

gzt:
Handle9: Yeah and it's a shitty way of doing business. The way to change it is vote them out but I'm not hopeful that the process will be any better under a different government.

Apparently it's even worse than that with the current government. Substantial new clauses almost routinely introduced into legislation after select committee meaning the intended period for public notification and public submission just doesn't happen.

https://newsroom.co.nz/2026/06/12/govts-sneaky-alternative-to-urgency-for-skipping-select-committee/

It’s what we say about every government and urgency. Every one is worse than the last.

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#3503413 15-Jun-2026 22:24

Handle9:
gzt: Climate change - Someone else's problem apparently.

The quiet reality is it’s someone else’s solution. New Zealand’s emissions per person are fairly significant but unless the large economies do their bit New Zealand will have approximately zero impact on climate change either way.

New Zealand's voice in international forums as a first world country like it or not has a lot more influence than many affected states. That is the way New Zealand can have an impact on climate change. Failing to contribute to research and emission reductions just is not good for credibility in that arena.

Edit: On the other hand if someone else gets NZ$5b to spend on mitigation that part is not entirely bad.

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#3503423 16-Jun-2026 01:11

quickymart:

Davey puts his foot in it:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360993152/are-you-ready-accept-youve-just-had-beating-seymour-apologises-lashing-out-woman-questioning-mp

A woman who says she escaped a violent relationship and has ongoing post traumatic stress disorder has received an apology from Deputy Prime Minister David Seymour after he emailed her saying, “Are you ready to accept you’ve just had a beating?”

The woman had emailed Seymour to express dissatisfaction about ACT MP and Children’s Minister Karen Chhour spending nearly $17,000 on airport parking, and Seymour’s response had little tolerance for her questions.

While I accept that he was probably frustrated by the exchange, I don't quite think that exact wording in his response was necessary.

Yeah he could have been more diplomatic. Saying that there is absolutely no evidence that he had any knowledge of her background.

She was also being provocative. Describing Chlours parking bill as “revolting” is inviting a strong response. This stinks of someone who looked for a particular type of response and then ran to the press to cry about getting burnt when she played with fire.

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#3503515 16-Jun-2026 12:51

freitasm:

"Broadcasting" is not just linear TV. Putting your message out there is, essentially, broadcasting.

I referred to Linear media, not just Telly. The relevant definition from the Broadcasting Act 1989 is below.

As far as I can tell it includes traditional TV and Radio, including subscription services, and anything that is streamed in a linear fashion. So, for example, I think the Samsung+ channel that streams Stargate constantly would be included. But Netflix, where I choose what programming to watch, is excluded.

broadcasting means any transmission of programmes, whether or not encrypted, by radio waves or other means of telecommunication for reception by the public by means of broadcasting receiving apparatus but does not include any such transmission of programmes—

(a) made on the demand of a particular person for reception only by that person; or

(b) made solely for performance or display in a public place

[Emphasis added]

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