The politicisation of NZ's covid response

To post in this sub-forum you must have made 100 posts or have Trust status or have completed our ID Verification

Forums › Politics › The politicisation of NZ's covid response

1 | ... | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 | 39 | 40 | ... | 55

14940 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 13954

ID Verified

#2871435 19-Feb-2022 18:51

From https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/02/latest-on-covid-19-community-outbreak-parliament-protest-saturday-february-19.html

Brian Tamaki's daughter Jamie Warren, speaking at Parliament on behalf of the Freedoms and Rights Coalition, has laid out a list of demands for the Government.

In a statement from the coalition - which praised her for bringing "strong and decisive leadership to the protesters", Warren laid out her four key points:

End the mandates by March 1 2022
Negotiation on March 1 with the Government on behalf of the protesters and the New Zealanders who support them
A clear end date to the COVID-19 Health Response Acts and all its amendments
Jobs reinstated to those affected by the mandates, and the back pay of wages lost as a result of them

Warren warns if the Government do not revoke the mandates, then Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern needs to resign and new elections be called.

"This has now gone beyond an arm wrestle to have the mandates removed, as the next chapter in this epic struggle for political change and the fight to get our country back, has just begun," Warren said.

My take on her points:
- Why March 1? What's so special about that date? Is it her birthday?

- How many Kiwis really support the protest? They're still a small (but very loud) minority. Are they trying to hold the Government to ransom?

- Again, why a specific end date? The virus isn't going to just go away because she doesn't believe in it. You may not believe a tiger is going to maul you at the zoo, but that won't stop it from doing that, will it?

- She can absolutely get stuffed. I made the decision to do the right thing for the community, why should they be rewarded for not doing the right thing too?

Sorry if I sound ranty, but this is just ridiculous, and I don't believe the PM should resign if these bunch of morons don't get their "demands" met. Who's going to run the country? Them??? God help us all. I would move if these clowns were in charge.

tdgeek

30048 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 9455

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#2871436 19-Feb-2022 19:06

quickymart:

From https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/02/latest-on-covid-19-community-outbreak-parliament-protest-saturday-february-19.html

Brian Tamaki's daughter Jamie Warren, speaking at Parliament on behalf of the Freedoms and Rights Coalition, has laid out a list of demands for the Government.

In a statement from the coalition - which praised her for bringing "strong and decisive leadership to the protesters", Warren laid out her four key points:

End the mandates by March 1 2022
Negotiation on March 1 with the Government on behalf of the protesters and the New Zealanders who support them
A clear end date to the COVID-19 Health Response Acts and all its amendments
Jobs reinstated to those affected by the mandates, and the back pay of wages lost as a result of them
Warren warns if the Government do not revoke the mandates, then Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern needs to resign and new elections be called.

"This has now gone beyond an arm wrestle to have the mandates removed, as the next chapter in this epic struggle for political change and the fight to get our country back, has just begun," Warren said.

My take on her points:
- Why March 1? What's so special about that date? Is it her birthday?

- How many Kiwis really support the protest? They're still a small (but very loud) minority. Are they trying to hold the Government to ransom?

- Again, why a specific end date? The virus isn't going to just go away because she doesn't believe in it. You may not believe a tiger is going to maul you at the zoo, but that won't stop it from doing that, will it?

- She can absolutely get stuffed. I made the decision to do the right thing for the community, why should they be rewarded for not doing the right thing too?

Sorry if I sound ranty, but this is just ridiculous, and I don't believe the PM should resign if these bunch of morons don't get their "demands" met. Who's going to run the country? Them??? God help us all. I would move if these clowns were in charge.

Line up 10 "experts" They can list their endless years of Uni

Line up 10 protestors.

Beccara

1473 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 517

ID Verified

#2871454 19-Feb-2022 20:18

NZPCA twitter account pushed an anti-mandate tweet out not so long ago:

Most problems are the result of previous solutions...

All comment's I make are my own personal opinion and do not in any way, shape or form reflect the views of current or former employers unless specifically stated

gzt

18685 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 7826

Lifetime subscriber

#2871458 19-Feb-2022 20:54

It's odd that organisation uses a logo very similar to the offical NZ Police logo. NZPCA above is not affiliated with or funded by the New Zealand Police.

gzt

18685 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 7826

Lifetime subscriber

#2871459 19-Feb-2022 21:00

Gary served his community

Gary appears to be on a domestic flight without a mask for some reason.

quickymart

14940 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 13954

ID Verified

#2871470 19-Feb-2022 22:29

Gary is a moron, who threw away his years in the Police force for...why didn't he want the vaccine again?

People like this, just...ugh.

AliExpress

Shop now on AliExpress (affiliate link).

Handle9

11927 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 9679

Trusted

Lifetime subscriber

#2871486 20-Feb-2022 01:34

quickymart:
Gary is a moron, who threw away his years in the Police force for...why didn't he want the vaccine again?

Related: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/02/two-police-officers-who-lost-their-jobs-to-vaccine-mandates-say-they-would-return-if-mandates-lift.html

People like this, just...ugh.

Who cares? They aren’t worth getting worked up about.

quickymart

14940 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 13954

ID Verified

#2871494 20-Feb-2022 07:10

I just wish the media would stop giving oxygen to morons like this, it makes me think it only emboldens their cause and makes them all want to start making a song and dance about it.

In other news, some cars have started being moved: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/02/police-begin-to-clear-up-blockade-near-anti-covid-vaccine-mandate-protest-at-parliament.html

ezbee

2656 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3098

#2871506 20-Feb-2022 08:55

Apparently Cristopher Luxton just says we need a 'De-escalation Strategy'.
So pretty much ok with the inaction by the police so far ?

Seems much stronger action needed, but does he have a foot in their evangelical insurrectionist camp ?
A vote is a vote, and most are the godly ?

Wealth church Evangelicals seem to be the financial backbone of this, thus money and organization.
Toss in the links to USA TRumpy, Bannony, Qanony groups for some patronage,
Brian Tamaki's Harleys freighted in and all.

GV27

5977 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4212

#2871521 20-Feb-2022 10:15

quickymart:

In other news, some cars have started being moved: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2022/02/police-begin-to-clear-up-blockade-near-anti-covid-vaccine-mandate-protest-at-parliament.html

Only after the number of vehicles involved doubled, apparently.

According to Coster on Q&A, police didn't have sufficient resources to continue making arrests like they did on the first Thursday, so they stopped.

It was patently obvious that this was going to explode in numbers if it wasn't dealt with before the weekend, and by this point the protestors had already been issued a trespass order. So why police not resourced to enforce the trespass order?

I find the comparisons to Ihumato and the BLM protests in Auckland really on the nose, given that none of these involved blockading a capital city and parliament buildings. He also says this activity at parliament is 'unprecedented', so that raises further questions about whether resources were sufficient to actually deal with it.

SJB

2945 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2287
Inactive user

#2871529 20-Feb-2022 10:37

Isn't unprecedented another word for 'I'm hopeless at planning for the worst case scenario or adapting to an evolving situation'.

Dyson

Shop now for Dyson appliances (affiliate link).

alexx

867 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 291

#2871536 20-Feb-2022 10:53

The Protect Pūtiki protesters were arrested pretty quickly, but of course those protesters were inconveniencing wealthy boat owners who wanted somewhere to park their expensive yachts.

#include <standard.disclaimer>

GV27

5977 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4212

#2871538 20-Feb-2022 10:56

SJB:

Isn't unprecedented another word for 'I'm hopeless at planning for the worst case scenario or adapting to an evolving situation'.

I mean he's technically correct in that no, we haven't seen it before, but I would have thought that would heighten the need to resolve it before it could get massively out of hand like it did over that weekend. Apparently the occupation of parliament grounds doesn't trigger a certain level of response, just a 'let's see how this plays out' which I find pretty staggering tbh.

ezbee

2656 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3098

#2871649 20-Feb-2022 13:54

The burning question of the freedom protest sponsored by leading evangelical groups, all the nicest people on the planet.

In Webworm by David Farrier.

Should we bring back public executions ?
Its a strange question to ask but a growing number of people are asking it.
Should we bring back public executions? (webworm.co)

There was this previously posted on sovereign citizen lot.
The Brainworms of the Wellington Protestors (webworm.co)

As someone running an innocuous community news channel found out.
Being beaten by the nicest most peaceful god fearing people.
Well its much like being beaten by anyone.
https://www.1news.co.nz/2022/02/19/we-want-to-feel-safe-say-wellingtonians-whove-been-attacked-by-protesters/

Thug life...

gzt

18685 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 7826

Lifetime subscriber

#2871673 20-Feb-2022 16:01

Good lord after reading that now I understand the people carrying nooses to parliament and talking about hanging and executions. It really is a thing. Nutjob Jan 6 type stuff. They really mean it:

https://www.webworm.co/p/hangings?utm_source=url

1 | ... | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 | 39 | 40 | ... | 55