Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#1778598 9-May-2017 16:31

Thanks for the link, driller2000, extremely interesting article.

But the downside of my reading is that I don't think I'll ever sleep soundly again.

The Trump business is disturbing enough, but the Guardian article reveals that a much bigger and more dangerous threat lurks under the floorboards of the global stage and is steadily eroding the foundations of democracy in every country that supports the system.

I'm reminded of the old adage - 'Always remember the Golden Rule: Whoever has the Gold makes the Rules'.

Trump crowned? No faux King way!

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#1778630 9-May-2017 17:42

geekIT:

Thanks for the link, driller2000, extremely interesting article.

But the downside of my reading is that I don't think I'll ever sleep soundly again.

The Trump business is disturbing enough, but the Guardian article reveals that a much bigger and more dangerous threat lurks under the floorboards of the global stage and is steadily eroding the foundations of democracy in every country that supports the system.

I'm reminded of the old adage - 'Always remember the Golden Rule: Whoever has the Gold makes the Rules'.

Yeah, quite unsettling. But that's what you get for "free" services - your identity, your "id", your sovereignty, has all been packaged up and sold. Your FB likes, your tweets, your google searches, browsing history, your magazine subs, etc, all packaged up, and sold, and fed back to you as positive reinforcement of the things you tweet and like. Operant conditioning.

The elections are being manipulated by contractors to the governments, and done so to get around any silly electoral laws that stand in their way. Governments are beholden, private contractors are not.

There are so many threads of unsettling discontent - I feel I am seeing things that are not right at the fringes, but it gets too big to comprehend properly. I follow a thread, and then it starts tying up into other threads. Food, consumerism, medicine, etc.

Time for a double layer on my alu-foil hat ...

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#1778785 9-May-2017 21:27

geekIT: The Trump business is disturbing enough, but the Guardian article reveals that a much bigger and more dangerous threat lurks under the floorboards of the global stage and is steadily eroding the foundations of democracy in every country that supports the system.

Good article. I'm a lot less pessimistic. France had a similar election experience, twitterbots, Facebook bot campaigns, + hacking. Le Pen lost. Not by enough, but enough to give a chance for something anyway.

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#1778803 9-May-2017 21:56

geekIT:

Thanks for the link, driller2000, extremely interesting article.

But the downside of my reading is that I don't think I'll ever sleep soundly again.

The Trump business is disturbing enough, but the Guardian article reveals that a much bigger and more dangerous threat lurks under the floorboards of the global stage and is steadily eroding the foundations of democracy in every country that supports the system.

I'm reminded of the old adage - 'Always remember the Golden Rule: Whoever has the Gold makes the Rules'.

I enjoyed the article. But its 100% one sided. I could read one that is the other way, balance is good.

But so far, his out there antics and behaviour have been kept in check. I dont expect that to change, but it could, so a concern. But checks and balances have worked well to date.

Sleep soundly!

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#1778960 10-May-2017 10:25

Breaking news. Trump has fired FBI director Comey. Read all about it.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#1778988 10-May-2017 10:45

Rikkitic:

Breaking news. Trump has fired FBI director Comey. Read all about it.

Comey was getting too close for comfort and the FBI is now run by Trump! I'm not too sure why many people are acting so surprised.

From Trump's letter to Comey:-

"While I greatly appreciate you informing me, on three separate occasions, that I am not under investigation, I nevertheless concur ............... that you are not able to effectively lead the Bureau".

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#1779013 10-May-2017 11:31

Rikkitic:

Breaking news. Trump has fired FBI director Comey. Read all about it.

Democracy, I'd like you to meet the toilet please.

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#1779015 10-May-2017 11:32

Yep Comey was getting too close to revealing the connection between Trump and Russia. Now they'll install a Trump friendly FBI director so it will all go away. Talk about a corrupt POTUS.

Regards,

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#1779036 10-May-2017 11:53

Rikkitic:

Breaking news. Trump has fired FBI director Comey. Read all about it.

In fairness, Comey's handling of the Clinton investigation (especially his public announcement just 2 weeks prior to the election) was very bad.

Trump is, of course, grabbing the opportunity to replace him with one of his cronies with both hands.

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#1779048 10-May-2017 12:24

How to Build an Autocracy

The preconditions are present in the U.S. today. Here’s the playbook Donald Trump could use to set the country down a path toward illiberalism.

"It’s 2021, and President Donald Trump will shortly be sworn in for his second term. ..."

“The benefit of controlling a modern state is less the power to persecute the innocent, more the power to protect the guilty.”

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#1779050 10-May-2017 12:34

Sounds like Putin did install Trump!

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#1779078 10-May-2017 13:42

Of the actions of Mr Trump to date the firing of the FBI Director is an obscene abuse of power and does not bode well for US democracy and possibly Western Democracy. It is a further step into a dark zone for this planet that I worry will not end well.

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#1779080 10-May-2017 13:49

MikeB4:

Of the actions of Mr Trump to date the firing of the FBI Director is an obscene abuse of power and does not bode well for US democracy and possibly Western Democracy. It is a further step into a dark zone for this planet that I worry will not end well.

I am at the point where I am less worried about North Korea getting Nukes than I am about the USA having Nukes.

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#1779090 10-May-2017 14:28

Paul1977:
Rikkitic:

Breaking news. Trump has fired FBI director Comey. Read all about it.

In fairness, Comey's handling of the Clinton investigation (especially his public announcement just 2 weeks prior to the election) was very bad.

Trump is, of course, grabbing the opportunity to replace him with one of his cronies with both hands.

Comey's flip flopping seemed like the behaviour of a man being blackmailed by both sides simultaneously. Weird. Comey fired, weirder.

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#1779093 10-May-2017 14:32

tdgeek:
But so far, his out there antics and behaviour have been kept in check. I dont expect that to change, but it could, so a concern. But checks and balances have worked well to date.

Sleep soundly!

Well let's hope none of the institutions burn down. Or any other type of events that could give him and his men free reign..

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