Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#1783666 17-May-2017 13:21

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old3eyes:

I bet if Hillery Clinton had been elected and she had done one thing that Trump has done the Republicans would be calling for impeachment.. But as it's their boy they've been very quiet about it..

Yup. Coz America hated Clinton and loved Trump. That's how it played out on election night.

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#1783670 17-May-2017 13:28

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Trump's bodyguard leaks the Defence Secretary's phone number the old fashioned way.

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#1783693 17-May-2017 14:02

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Er, Mike, the senate is elected by voters.

Yep, for one third every two years. That does not mean the voters impeach, the Senate does and as we know party first, electorate second. Don't get me wrong I believe that Mr Trump needs to go but I feel the next realistic chance of that is in 2020

not if the democracts win control in the 2018 elections, then all bets are off

If it looks probable that (lots of) seats will swing to the Democrats (i.e. that Republicans will lose their jobs), then those at-risk Republicans will be pressurising the rest to do something about (what they perceive to be) the cause of the swing. And that will happen a long time before the election (if the at-risk Republicans are smart).

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#1783704 17-May-2017 14:30

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MikeB4:

Rikkitic:

Er, Mike, the senate is elected by voters.

Yep, for one third every two years. That does not mean the voters impeach, the Senate does and as we know party first, electorate second. Don't get me wrong I believe that Mr Trump needs to go but I feel the next realistic chance of that is in 2020

not if the democracts win control in the 2018 elections, then all bets are off

If it looks probable that (lots of) seats will swing to the Democrats (i.e. that Republicans will lose their jobs), then those at-risk Republicans will be pressurising the rest to do something about (what they perceive to be) the cause of the swing. And that will happen a long time before the election (if the at-risk Republicans are smart).

Depends. Trump won on a state by state basis. Also the republicans at risk tend to distance themselves from Trump anyway. Also, many key voters still have an appetite for Trump's blame blame blame who is it this week carry on.

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#1783717 17-May-2017 14:42

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He must be inspirational to work for.....

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#1783726 17-May-2017 14:55

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Some may be ready to throw in the towel.

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#1783729 17-May-2017 14:57

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I don't know if Pence would be an improvement but he is certainly more 'establishment' and presumably more controllable by the party and more inclined to accept constitutional checks and balances. I don't know that much about him but if he accepts the rule of law even religious zeal doesn't have to be a deal breaker.

He is only there "waiting" to stand in for Trump when the "strange one" gets dumped. Why else would you risk the remaining years of your political career?

I'm hoping this is not some version of the plot of 'Designated Survivor' where the evil conspiricists have lined up their choice of a new leader under the guise of the vice president, and are just waiting for the orange haired buffoon to be shot/impeached so Pence can assume control and lead their new world order.

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#1783731 17-May-2017 15:12

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gzt:
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If it looks probable that (lots of) seats will swing to the Democrats (i.e. that Republicans will lose their jobs), then those at-risk Republicans will be pressurising the rest to do something about (what they perceive to be) the cause of the swing. And that will happen a long time before the election (if the at-risk Republicans are smart).

Depends. Trump won on a state by state basis. Also the republicans at risk tend to distance themselves from Trump anyway. Also, many key voters still have an appetite for Trump's blame blame blame who is it this week carry on.

I just did some reading up on the 2018 elections. All the House, and 1/3 of the Senate, are up for election.

The Senate looks like a done deal; this time there's only 8 currently Republican seats up for election, and 6 of those are safe. Only Arizona (Jeff Flake) and Nevada (Dean Heller) are vulnerable. Currently its 60-40 to the Republicans, so its not going to go Democrat.

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The House of Representatives is a possibility for change, but would need quite a large swing. The Republicans have gerrymandered the voting districts so that about 55% of people would have to vote Democrat before the Democrats get a slim majority in the House.

I guess that so long as they hold onto the Senate, it's no particular problem for the upper echelons of the GOP... they retain control.

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#1783738 17-May-2017 15:33

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At the rate Trump is going, I do not think it is at all unlikely that many republicans could turn against him.

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#1783744 17-May-2017 16:03

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Train-wreck Trump is exceeding my highest expectations. He can't last one term at this rate.

And I'm conflicted - I don't want it to end too soon, I'm having too much fun waking up every morning to each new installment. Imagine how boring it will be once he as departed and sanity is restored.

And I'm less concerned now that he will establish an authoritarian state. I just don't think he has the personal discipline to pull it off.

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#1783746 17-May-2017 16:08

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Train-wreck Trump is exceeding my highest expectations. He can't last one term at this rate.

And I'm conflicted - I don't want it to end too soon, I'm having too much fun waking up every morning to each new installment. Imagine how boring it will be once he as departed and sanity is restored.

And I'm less concerned now that he will establish an authoritarian state. I just don't think he has the personal discipline to pull it off.

I'm finding it exhausting.

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#1783755 17-May-2017 16:22

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dafman:

Train-wreck Trump is exceeding my highest expectations. He can't last one term at this rate.

And I'm conflicted - I don't want it to end too soon, I'm having too much fun waking up every morning to each new installment. Imagine how boring it will be once he as departed and sanity is restored.

And I'm less concerned now that he will establish an authoritarian state. I just don't think he has the personal discipline to pull it off.

I'm finding it exhausting.

I need to correct myself - once Trump has departed sanity won't be restored - Pence and the extreme religious/economic right will be installed. Possibly worse than Trump in the long run, so maybe the longer Trump hangs in there, the less we have to worry about Pence & Co.

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#1783824 17-May-2017 18:56

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gzt: Depends. Trump won on a state by state basis. Also the republicans at risk tend to distance themselves from Trump anyway. Also, many key voters still have an appetite for Trump's blame blame blame who is it this week carry on.

They may have voted for Trump, however they got Gomer Pyle.

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#1783870 17-May-2017 20:00

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They may have voted for Trump, however they got Gomer Pyle.

More like Homer Simpson!

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#1783879 17-May-2017 20:18

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Did The Simpsons make any predictions regarding the Trump presidency?

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