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#3263914 24-Jul-2024 10:21

TeaLeaf:

Re: Mark Kelly, just a typo, indeed Senator for Arizona.

Your favourite appears on quite a few of possible VP pick-type lists: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/23/kamala-harris-vp-pick/

Some good options here as well. I think Mark Kelly may have an issue with less name recognition, but you could argue the same thing about James before Trump chose him to be his VP too.

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#3263916 24-Jul-2024 10:27

freitasm:

On Fox News, talking to Tucker Carlson.

Well, that would be expected.

I cant stand the sanctimonious tone, he acts like he is innocent and not an expert before giving an opinion upon which a witch like cackle is released in glee of is non expert problem solver (in his own mind)

Did you watch some of his "Tour" of aus recently? He did the smug act there, just a huge gas lighter. Telling them they are essentially dumb for going solar etc, why do you send your rare earths to get EV's sent back. Energy is so costly in aussie, you have plenty of coal, why are you not creating energy from it?

Its like him, Musk, JD and Trump all talk similar, raise a certain topic, then try to make you feel stupid for doing it that way, with very smug and sanctimonious tone.

Im realizing they are all running the same play book.

While Biden is King, he should demand the removal of Musks 10000x algorithm applied to his profile, from which he is putting Trump, JD, MTG and others on Blast. Its just wrong.

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#3263929 24-Jul-2024 11:33

quickymart:

Your favourite appears on quite a few of possible VP pick-type lists:

My fav is changing with the wind :-).

In other news on the Independent;

Trump has filed an elections complaint to block Kamala fom the $90M in "Joes" war chest. This is a flip on politicizing legals. Possibly similar to his delay legal tactics so She/they cant get campaign ads out now?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-fec-complaint-biden-harris-b2584772.html

Harris goes to town on P2025 and prosecutes Trumps link to it (I like this)

Kamala Harris links Trump to Project 2025 in first presidential campaign rally | The Independent

and Trump commits to Debating Harris, I wish it had been Vance but not to be, I guess that will depend if the running mate a legal eagle,

“I’m not thrilled about ABC because they’re truly fake news… They’re actually trying to make a hero out of Joe Biden, when he was the worst president in history"

Is he serious? he is asking for them to point out his failures.

Donald Trump commits to debating Kamala Harris: ‘I think it’s important’ | The Independent

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#3263951 24-Jul-2024 12:40

Kelly is not only swing state but also Governor of a border state, he could really hammer home some realistic border plan they come up with and explain why a wall just wont do anything. i think given the migrants doing so much of the work noone else will do, or "black jobs" ugggggh,

Trump making no sense as usual I thought. After your comment I can see it was more likely yet another racist comment from Trump. In practice somewhere round 25% of African American adults have a college degree or higher. That number will be far higher for African Americans under 30 years old.

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#3263958 24-Jul-2024 13:29

gzt: After your comment I can see it was more likely yet another racist comment from Trump. In practice somewhere round 25% of African American adults have a college degree or higher. That number will be far higher for African Americans under 30 years old.

Exactly.

If he had more substance behind it I would possibly listen, ie we are looking for Americans to fill these rolls by paying them "tough jobs" grants, so US citizens will do the not so glamorous jobs.

It, I think the Repubs peaked way too early.

Tring to impeach Harris is absurd, delay delay delay. Time waste campaign.

JD fell apart on stage imo.

Repub = Desperate.

From The Independent "

"Trump calls for investigation into Biden’s doctors as Vance claims Dems staged ‘coup’"

Beyoncé gives Kamala Harris approval to use ‘Freedom’ as official 2024 campaign song | The Independent

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#3263993 24-Jul-2024 14:38

Trump saying he thinks it will be easier to beat Harris in the elections, one aspect of reasoning she is a woman. He really needs to stop that tactic.

Democrats targeting his age and his brain damage, which is a fair call. No doubt he will say hes had independent Dr reviews and he "aced" them all, 300 reviews, aced them all, fine people, mighty fine people those Drs. :-)

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#3264019 24-Jul-2024 17:03

Oh the Repubs just keeps messing up, watch the video, then read the news on it. I think Trump is clearly anxious, he thought it was going to be Biden all the way, hence trying to block Democrat $90M stack of treasure ready to bury him.

Too many things wrong with this, but inciting political violence with another AR I didnt look close enough to catch which model

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/valentina-gomez-speakers-balcony-video-b2584753.html

Edit: Is anyone else confused by the bonkers amount of bonkers stuff from the Trump camp today? How can you win at suppressing donation pile for Biden/Harris when Harris has taken over? is this just delay/delay/delay tactics?

If this is what its like too voting I expect some very bizarre occurences, possibly more violnce due to the Repub party and possibly some hacking of the polls?

She is blowing up BIG on tik-tok, 1.1M individual contributors, approx 600000 of them first time donors. P2025 is struggling to get the 20k, Harris has got 50000 x volunteer helpers within 48 hours. Id be screening them.

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#3264050 24-Jul-2024 19:15

TeaLeaf:

Musk

Speaking of which... https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/jul/24/elon-musk-donald-trump-donations-denial-super-pac-america

Also - a very thoughtful article from The Bulwark comparing Jacindamania to Kamala-mania (doesn't quite roll off the tongue as easily though):

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/harrismania-jacinda-ardern-new-zealand-kamala

Finally, a very fitting cartoon for the day:

Yes I bet Trump is starting to panic now, he thought he would have it real easy with Joe, I guess he didn't count on him stepping down at all - or even when he did, hence why he's filing lawsuits saying "they can't change the candidate! She can't get all his money!"

Hopefully they get a decent judge who throws these waste-of-time cases out.

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#3264058 24-Jul-2024 19:27

quickymart: Speaking of which... https://www.dailykos.com/story/2024/7/23/2257485/-Elon-Musk-is-Withdrawing-his-45-million-donations-to-Trump

Just a caveat, the Daily Kos is a not-very-reliable source, the story is actually from Fortune. In particular the original reports that Musk has denied ever pledging to give $45M to Trump in the first place, not that he's "withdrawing his donations".

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#3264060 24-Jul-2024 19:34

D'oh, I did see that story had been reposted from elsewhere. I've swapped it out for a more reliable source now.

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#3264065 24-Jul-2024 19:56

🥥 getting traction.

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#3264067 24-Jul-2024 20:00

Tealeaf: Is anyone else confused by the bonkers amount of bonkers stuff from the Trump camp today? How can you win at suppressing donation pile for Biden/Harris when Harris has taken over? is this just delay/delay/delay tactics?

I have no idea. Maybe there is something in it or something undefined to be decided. A Republican court action might be lucky with drawing a judge like Trump was lucky with Cannon.

Win or lose the Republican team knows if an appeal from either side goes all the way to Supreme Court there is an excellent chance it will be decided along party lines for the Republican side.

Imo Harris will not be concerned about any of that. The campaign has momentum and no problem raising funds. Even if all the donations to the Biden-Harris campaign up to now must be refunded to donors it will not put any dent in the fundraising momentum or the campaign momentum.

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#3264087 24-Jul-2024 21:14

CNN Transcript

Video clip of Mike Johnson, “MAGA Mike.” Republican speaker of the house:

Well, look, if it violates the rules in some of these states, I expect that there will be litigation over that. So, we'll see how it develops. We're doing our job here in Washington. The states will be handling that. But I do think it's problematic. I think millions of the American people believe that this is problematic. This is not the way the system is supposed to work. There's a reason it's unprecedented. You don't just, you know, steamroll the rules in the process because you decide that your candidate is no longer suitable. That's what's happened here. I think everybody can see it for themselves and we'll see how the campaign unfurls.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

REPORTER: Congressman, what do you make of that comment from the speaker saying there's going to be litigation in all these states?

Democrat California Congressman GARAMENDI: It's laughable. I was having a hard time not going with a big belly laugh here. Just who the hell does he think he is, messing with the Democrats? The Republicans whining about now they've got a very serious problem. They've got a candidate for on the Democratic side that is going to whip the Republicans.

We got a prosecutor that is going to be taking on a certified felon in the presidential election.

And I understand why they're so concerned. Just who do they think they are messing around in the Democratic politics? They can't even take care of themselves. So let's get out of there, Mike Johnson. Pay attention to your own party and don't go messing around with the Democratic Party. It's all legal.

Of course, this is the Trump playbook, isn't it? When you're going down, start suing. Get the lawyers out there and start suing, more of the same.

REPORTER And is the Democratic Party prepared for this?

GARAMENDI: Of course we are. Of course we are. We're going to go into the convention with a very, very strong ticket. Kamala Harris is lining up the endorsement and support of the Democratic rank and file across this nation. Certainly, she has mine and she has many, many other members of Congress and undoubtedly have a great majority of them.

The rules are Democratic rules. Republicans, don't go mess with our primary, don't go mess with our convention. Go take care of yourself because you're going to need a lot of help, because we're going to have a very strong, very united Democratic Party going into the convention and coming out of the convention.

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#3264270 25-Jul-2024 14:36

Biden gave address today, Thursday afternoon NZ. Just 11 minutes long

President Biden : abandoned his re-election campaign because there is “a time and a place for new voices, fresh voices yes, younger voices.”

“It’s been the privilege of my life to serve this nation for over 50 years,”
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“I revere this office,” he said, “but I love my country more.”

Ultimately, Mr. Biden said, he concluded that “the best way forward is to pass the torch to a new generation.” The president praised Vice President Kamala Harris — “she’s experienced, she’s tough, she’s capable” — but warned, as he has for years, that Americans faced a choice between preserving democracy and allowing it to backslide.

“History is in your hands,” Mr. Biden said. “The power is in your hands. The idea of America lies in your hands. We just have to keep faith, keep the faith, and remember who we are.”
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Jump to start of 11 minute speech

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