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#3151072 22-Oct-2023 16:08

Benton Courier: A $19,000 lectern for [Former Trump press secretary and current] Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders sparks call for legislative audit

Sarah Huckabee Sanders rose to national prominence in part during her time at the lectern as White House press secretary, but the purchase of a $19,000 lectern for the Arkansas governor is undergoing scrutiny and prompting claims that records about it have been altered.

A legislative panel next week will take up a lawmaker's request for an audit to review the purchase of the lectern, which was bought in June for $19,029.25 with a state credit card.
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Questions about the lectern, its cost, how it was purchased has dominated political talk in Arkansas in recent weeks. The state's largest newspaper, the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, ran a front-page photo of the lectern last week after Sanders' office allowed the paper to view it.
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The lectern's purchase was first uncovered by Matthew Campbell, an attorney and blogger who has sued State Police for withholding records he had requested about Sanders' travel and security. Days after Campbell filed his initial suit, Sanders called a special legislative session and proposed broad exemptions to the state's open records law.

Sanders signed into law a measure restricting the public's access to her travel and security records after she and lawmakers backed off more widespread exemptions that faced backlash from media groups, transparency advocates and some conservatives.
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Parody "Trump White House briefing"

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#3151074 22-Oct-2023 16:17

Traitor grandma who helped Trump gets instant karma from judge

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A Pennsylvania grandmother and would-be insurrectionist was just sentenced to 4 years in federal prison for swinging an ice axe and breaking into the Capitol.

Michael Popok of Legal AF reports on the sentencing of the "Bullhorn Lady," AKA "Pink Hat Lady," Rachel Powell, as she’s known by online social media sleuths, and covers the new sentencing bringing her to justice.

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#3151166 22-Oct-2023 22:08

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2023/10/21/alex-jones-bankruptcy-sandy-hook-liable/2171697907955/ >> HA HA...! Funny how he's failing at dodging accountability for his nasty comments.

Try again, loser. (Or don't).

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#3151558 23-Oct-2023 18:26

I thought this police video was funny.

The first segment was from Florida (no surprise).

A bit of trivia: each Florida county has their own set of radio codes. In Pensacola, the "Redneck Riviera", apparently "15 7" is "super right, sovereign citizen"

From the SLPC: Sovereign citizens believe they are not under the jurisdiction of the US federal government and consider themselves exempt from U.S. law. They use a variety of conspiracy theories and falsehoods to justify their beliefs and their activities, some of which are illegal and violent.

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#3151612 23-Oct-2023 19:18

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This is the future of Liz Gunn and the other groups descending further into their siloed madness.
I'm sure that SovCit grifters and scammers, selling their solution, with secret codes and words,
are befriending these groups.

It's getting harder for Police and Security, with these on the loose.
Plain criminals are far easier to deal with than these entitled nutters.

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#3151614 23-Oct-2023 19:20

This is not a Florida (or US) only phenomenon. There are plenty of "sovereign citizens" in New Zealand, and quite a few appear in the news every week.

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#3151619 23-Oct-2023 19:48

SovCits...
Yeh, They are everywhere, I Luckly dodged working for one.
Once they started going on about joining their tax evading secret society to get paid.
No 'Spidey Senses' needed.

They were scarily persistent.
Taken aback that their secret to avoid taxes and live free without legal restrictions fell on deaf ears.
They just seem to have endless time to try to wear you down, more explaining will surely bring you around.

Police, Security, Real Estate, Rental Agents, Tradespeople, Contractors,
and many other public facing occupations have got more fraught with these out and about.

Liz Gunn and here ilk are prime targets for being sold the secrets, being part way there already.
Further destroying their lives.

'Sovereign citizens' tying councils up with rates refusal and red tape
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/131910627/sovereign-citizens-tying-councils-up-with-rates-refusal-and-red-tape

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Of the 69 councils who responded, 50 reported contact with sovereign citizens over the last three years. Of these, two dozen councils reported residents refusing to pay rates based on SovCit ideals.
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#3151620 23-Oct-2023 19:55

Just a few examples from a long list of New Zealand occurrences:

'Sovereign Citzen' argument over 8-year-old warrant of fitness falls flat | Stuff.co.nz

'Sovereign citizen' landlords evicted tenants over vaccine feud | Stuff.co.nz

'Not under your jurisdiction': How the phenomenon known as 'pseudolaw' is clogging up courts | Stuff.co.nz

'Sovereign citizens' tying councils up with rates refusal and red tape | Stuff.co.nz

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#3151631 23-Oct-2023 20:33

If these sovereign citizen morons want to play their stupid childish game they can get the hell off the roads my taxes paid for, as well as not utilising the police force or hospitals my taxes subsidise. Ditto to the water supply to their properties, if applicable. They can setup their own system to take care of all that, I presume? 🙄

The moronic Kelvyn Alp of Counterspin and his partner Hannah something-or-other tried this in court last year too but failed:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/checkpoint/audio/2018856907/far-right-extremists-dragged-into-dock-in-christchurch-court

Of course I bet if one of these clowns was robbed or something they'd be on the phone to the police immediately, of course...

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#3151661 24-Oct-2023 08:30

The Washington Post - Sidney Powell was Trump’s biggest ‘fighter.’ Now she’s a big threat.

21 Oct 2023

In the weeks after the 2020 election, a self-assured lawyer with a Southern drawl quickly climbed the ranks of the movement trying to keep President Trump in power: She aired outlandish assertions on Fox News and before cameras at the headquarters of the Republican National Committee, filed a battery of lawsuits pressing Trump’s case and took part in an Oval Office meeting where the president considered naming her a special prosecutor.

Then Sidney Powell fell back down to earth.

Trump’s team spurned her. Federal prosecutors demanded her fundraising records. She was ordered to pay sanctions for filing a frivolous lawsuit in Michigan. The State Bar of Texas lodged a disciplinary complaint against her. Two companies that make voting software sued her. ...

In August, she appeared as an unindicted co-conspirator in the federal indictment accusing Trump of trying to subvert the election, and, later that month, she was charged alongside him in a Georgia case brought by Atlanta-area prosecutors.

On Thursday, Powell resolved the Georgia case by pleading guilty to six misdemeanor counts of conspiracy to interfere with the performance of election duties. ...

The deal turns Powell into the government’s most prominent known asset in its quest to convict Trump ...

Trump now claims Sidney Powell never represented him. He previously said she was among his "wonderful lawyers and representatives."

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#3151738 24-Oct-2023 13:19

The NY Times - Jim Jordan & Ideology Scores (18 Oct 2023)

Ideology scores are based on congressional voting records.

Note that Jim Jordan is far, far right. ➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️➡️

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#3151782 24-Oct-2023 15:23

Comparing the Democrats and Republicans "left" versus "right" is like comparing "damp" versus "moist"

If the graph gridlines were using the world's political spectrums, the democrat and republican data points would be touching, and further to the right.

There's way too much corporate influence (money) in US politics for either party to be "left."

I find it shocking that Newt Gingrich is now considered a centrist in GOP politics.

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#3151905 24-Oct-2023 20:54

While politics is much more multidimensional, USA can't seem to elevate themselves beyond 1 dimensional line.
The logic of being less right than the next guy means you are left of them and therefore you are no longer right.
So that line just extends further and further right as everyone is fighting to get further right than next person.

Do the Republicans, GOP hate each other as much or more than they hate everyone else?

Some bang on about perceived lack of bipartisanship from their opposition,
but they themselves can't even manage it within their party.

Truth of their intransigence showing reason that capacity for any bipartisan interaction is DOA.

It seems they cannot agree on a compromise to move their own agenda forward, as clock ticks away on days for them to enter and pass bills.

Actually, they could probably get a hand from Democrats with a more sensible Republican as speaker,
and promise to put a bill forward for various funding that would surely pass immediately.
Problem being its not that certain bills won't pass, its that a 'captivated by radicals' speaker won't present them.

Its downright silly to expect Democrats to give tiny minority of radicals a free ride though, in the end no progress happens.

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#3151947 25-Oct-2023 07:07

https://edition.cnn.com/politics/live-news/house-speaker-vote-10-24-23/index.html

Well they have their new nominee, but with 26 people not voting for (or voting against him) I dunno if this Tom guy can overcome the odds.

Some of these Republicans just astound me with how stubborn and obstinate they are - and yet they expect the public to vote for them.

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#3151958 25-Oct-2023 08:39

Emmer sounds moderate by Republican standards. While he is the nominee, would it not be clever if the Democrats rushed in and voted him into office? Why do they not do this?

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