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#2489782 22-May-2020 20:02

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The Christian conservative bloc wont allow a female leader

They are now firmly on the outer after today. Look at the comments of O'Connor etc. Alfred Ngaro hasn't posted a thing about the leadership change. They needed to be cleared out.

Why so much hate for Christians?

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#2489799 22-May-2020 20:16

Zal:
Why so much hate for Christians?

No hate for Christians.

Christian morality as law (homosexuality, abortion). F$#k off.

The grubs who act as moral guardians (Graeme Capill, Brian Tamaki) don't help.

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#2489802 22-May-2020 20:32

Handle9:
Zal:

Why so much hate for Christians?

No hate for Christians.

Christian morality as law (homosexuality, abortion). F$#k off.

The grubs who act as moral guardians (Graeme Capill, Brian Tamaki) don't help.

I guess you keep your views to yourself in the Middle East then. With some exceptions, Muslims hold pretty similar moral views to the Christian ones.

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#2489811 22-May-2020 20:43

Technofreak:
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No hate for Christians.

Christian morality as law (homosexuality, abortion). F$#k off.

The grubs who act as moral guardians (Graeme Capill, Brian Tamaki) don't help.

I guess you keep your views to yourself in the Middle East then. With some exceptions, Muslims hold pretty similar moral views to the Christian ones.

It's not my country, I don't make the rules or have any input into them.

There are many things in different countries I don't agree with but I don't have any right to change them.

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#2489816 22-May-2020 20:55

Handle9:
Technofreak:

I guess you keep your views to yourself in the Middle East then. With some exceptions, Muslims hold pretty similar moral views to the Christian ones.

It's not my country, I don't make the rules or have any input into them.

There are many things in different countries I don't agree with but I don't have any right to change them.

Perhaps I could have expressed things better.

There are also Muslims living in New Zealand with the the same moral views, so it not just a Christian thing. However it seems that it's OK to just tell one group to "F$#k off".

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#2489819 22-May-2020 21:01

Don't really know the new guy, but at least it wasn't Judith Collins - far too polarising to win an election.

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#2489820 22-May-2020 21:07

Technofreak:
Perhaps I could have expressed things better.

There are also Muslims living in New Zealand with the the same moral views, so it not just a Christian thing. However it seems that it's OK to just tell one group to "F$#k off".

No, any religion that wants to impose it's religious views as law in a secular country can go the same way.

Behave how you want, believe what you want, just don't try and impose those views on others.

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#2489821 22-May-2020 21:07

quickymart:

Don't really know the new guy, but at least it wasn't Judith Collins - far too polarising to win an election.

He is a bit of an unknown. I heard his press conference speech on the radio. I thought he spoke very well. If he can carry through with the stuff he talked about I think he will resonate well with the average New Zealander. I think it's a good combination with with Nikki Kaye.

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#2489858 22-May-2020 22:04

Heh - well done:

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#2489864 22-May-2020 22:20

brownie112: Surprised why nobody has mentioned Christopher Luxon yet. I reckon he's as close to JK the National party ever gonna get this time around. Muller looks strong too.

I guess you don't know much about CL then. From what I hear he is certainly no John Key. Not saying he won't do a good job but two very different people.

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#2489867 22-May-2020 22:34

Technofreak:
brownie112: Surprised why nobody has mentioned Christopher Luxon yet. I reckon he's as close to JK the National party ever gonna get this time around. Muller looks strong too.

I guess you don't know much about CL then. From what I hear he is certainly no John Key. Not saying he won't do a good job but two very different people.

I think if anything you are understating the differences between Key and Luxon

I think it is far from certain that Luxon will be successful as a politician. Fyfe would be much closer to Key than Luxon is.

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#2489871 22-May-2020 23:01

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I think if anything you are understating the differences between Key and Luxon

I think it is far from certain that Luxon will be successful as a politician. Fyfe would be much closer to Key than Luxon is.

By a long shot. We agree on something

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#2489874 22-May-2020 23:18

Technofreak:

Handle9:

I think if anything you are understating the differences between Key and Luxon

I think it is far from certain that Luxon will be successful as a politician. Fyfe would be much closer to Key than Luxon is.

By a long shot. We agree on something

OT but I think we agree on more than perhaps may be apparent. The disagreements are generally pretty interesting and enjoyable.