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kingdragonfly
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  #3269989 9-Aug-2024 19:46
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Washington Post: JD Vance in texts with far-right figure: Profane and off-the-cuff

The day after JD Vance was elected to the U.S. Senate in 2022, he received a congratulatory text from Charles Johnson, a blogger and entrepreneur who has zealously promoted right-wing conspiracy theories.
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He was banned from Twitter in 2015 for soliciting donations aimed at “taking out” a Black Lives Matter activist. ... His account was restored under the platform’s new owner, Elon Musk.
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The texts, sent over the encrypted messaging app Signal and provided by Johnson to The Washington Post, show the 40-year-old senator engaged in the kind of freewheeling communication ordinarily tightly controlled by congressional staff.
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“Dude I won’t even take calls from Ukraine,” he told Johnson in October, about three weeks after House Republicans blocked additional aid to help Kyiv repel the Russian invasion. “Two very senior guys reached out to me. The head of their intel. The head of the Air Force. Bitching about F16s.”
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When Johnson suggested that the senator should work to restrict foreign ownership of U.S. housing, Vance responded with a “thumbs up” emoji.
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Vance has bragged about being “plugged into a lot of weird, right-wing subcultures.” He wrote a positive blurb for a book by Jack Posobiec, the far-right activist who advanced the “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory. And he has defended Alex Jones, the right-wing radio host who spread lies about the Sandy Hook school shooting.

“Believing crazy things is not the mark of whether somebody should be rejected,” Vance said in a 2021 speech
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Vance said he thought more of Netanyahu’s government than of Americans who support interventionist foreign policy. “Publicly and privately not a single rep of the Israeli government has sounded as insane as our neocons,” he wrote.

His defense of Israel and scorn for neoconservatives shows Vance saying privately what he often says publicly.
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  #3269991 9-Aug-2024 19:58
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TeaLeaf:

 

Sorry for so many posts, run out of time to edit, twice, ugggh.

 

So, ABC, Fox, NBC and I believe CBS the veeps is Trumps proposal. Kamala yet to respond to this dramatic change of heart, clearly her team need to vett it all etc.

 

 

 

 

To completely butcher a saying ..."If Kamala won't go to the moron, the moron must come to Kamala"


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  #3270021 9-Aug-2024 21:31
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kingdragonfly:
His defense of Israel and scorn for neoconservatives shows Vance saying privately what he often says publicly.
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The only issue he faces is, he cant catch up with all his lies. What he says changes with the $ as do his morals.

US support for Ukraine is waning, not so much Dems although at about 63%, but repubs closer to 35%, I wonder why, or. who......

Ukr could have finished this a long time ago with the right weapons at the right time. Vance is flat out wrong and eventually being a defeatist appeaser will see the US full of agents. He is literally dumb.

 

If the US pulls support or goes isolationist, they are turning their back on experienced soldiers without air support or ground cover, something the US would never do. But more to the point, they are working on some very cleaver weapons with the cost coming down rapidly. along with their own missiles, speculation they have been in use.

My point is, the US economy relies on Weapon sales, turn their back on that at their own peril, sure Europe doesn't have alll those weapons left over from the middle east, but give them enough time, they have some very competitive alternatives, 




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  #3270152 10-Aug-2024 08:27
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A couple of the more clever election cartoons from this week:

 

 


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  #3270183 10-Aug-2024 10:38
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If the whole story about the shooting and shooter doesn't come out soon, Republicans will use that more and more as a "The Democrats are behind it".

 

It will be like the 2016 elections and "her emails" again.





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  #3270443 10-Aug-2024 19:37
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freitasm:

 

If the whole story about the shooting and shooter doesn't come out soon, Republicans will use that more and more as a "The Democrats are behind it"

 

 

maybe, but I thought they had been pretty open. What do you think needs more light shined on it?

I suspect no matter what Kamala is not stopping for his tricks no matter what. Which is stall and "Look at me not them", I think she would say release it and lets move on, not forgetting years and years of angry rhetoric taregted at dems, literally. which got other people hurt, which Trump laugh's at publically ie Paul Pelosi. Ironically a registered republican listen to his hate and thinks, he deserves a kind way out of his mysery? ;-p. jks

You are right though, right now Harris continues at this pass she wins, so he has to come up with something. I just wonder which way the dems will handle it.

 

anyway I really just stopped to comment on the Trafalgar poles of Likely, not Registered Votes. all 4 small polls showing a +1 to +4 for Trump.  Its only moved the avg Poll needle back from Harris 2.1 to Harris 2.0. Still a legit lead, but I think she would have been hoping to be +7 by the end of month with momentum going foward. This is important as unlike Clinton and  Biden who on this day polled near on 7+, but the difference being they were going back.


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  #3270448 10-Aug-2024 20:47
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Title says it all aside from the stupidity of most Netwoks to Forget Harris was speaking at the same time. I think Trump can drown out what what Harris is doing, which is not just engaging crowds, but getting them fired up and nullifying the border as Trumps fault for squashing bipartisan work and Harris acknowledging despite some records in economic growth and unemployment, she knows its hard for some and she plans to fix those causing the problem day one.

Trump holds seemingly pointless press conference filled with false claims | The Independent

 

So now Trump will do another rigged softballer with Musk. But musK is going many steps further, whether legal or not is unknown at this point. Two humans with extreme mental disorders, Im not sure if either does anything to manage.

But I did say something from Musk or other techo's is his ownly way to slow the role of Harris, if he can at all.
Elon Musk is disrupting US elections to boost Trump | The Independent


 
 
 

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  #3270523 11-Aug-2024 13:01
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In a nutshell, Trump's getting burned by “The Boy Who Cried Wolf”, one of Aesop’s fables.

Stock markets worldwide had a crash Thursday, and a small recovery on Friday. Despite what analysts say, it's for reasons unknown.

It's not unusual for the stock market to crash when an "anti-big business" president is doing well in re-election (I know Kamala is not being re-elected, but that's another topic).

Normally a stock market crash would be good news for the challenger (Trump) and bad news against the incumbent (Kamala).

However Trump has consistently and frequently lied about stock market crashes occurring when the stock market in 2024 had been performing quite well.

The S&P 500, for example, had been on a strong upward trajectory, continuing the momentum from 2023, which saw a significant rebound with a 26.29% total return.

So Trump supporters would already believe his "the world is ending, and Trump is the only savior"

Anyone who won't vote for Trump would be desensitized; Trump has repeatedly said there been recent was stock market crashes "worse than 1929", a blatant lie.

Again if I may repeat, despite what analysts say, it's for reasons unknown. Worldwide it’s estimated that algorithmic trading accounts for around 60-70% of all trading volume in equity markets.


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  #3270641 11-Aug-2024 18:39
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kingdragonfly: 

So Trump supporters would already believe his "the world is ending, and Trump is the only savior"


 

i love some intellectual GeoPolitics mixed with some factual economics. But unlikes you are so overtly pro Trump how can that conversation even be had around what he says. I again, I truly think the people associate being able to say "your'e fired" with Trump actually knowing anything about non fraudulent economics. He has cried wolf so many times that he is about to be sentenced and I think he fears finishing life behind "rich" man bars, which is that really justice?

Which is why I asked re him trying to blame the dems for his lack of security. I dont think he will, but when it gets close who knows what he will use.

But precisely wont he just look like the usual lunatic blaming everything and anything? From what I see the people are growing tird of him and his lies.
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anyway posts ipsos polls have her at her best avg yet, +2.3. I think ideally by end of Sept she needs to have a 5pt buffer, but unlikes dems of the recent heading in the positive direction. +8 by October pretty much spell all 3 for the Dems one month later. So its a battle of grass roots, which Musk has tried to interfere with but none the less Harris (and Biden) set up an amazing door to door platform and I want to see how well this does.

Of course Trump being Trump, especially if sentenced and especially if made to look a fool, could become ever more inpopular thn he is now, with Harris now within 5pts of being popular over unpopular. Unbelievable.


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  #3270643 11-Aug-2024 18:48
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kingdragonfly: Stock markets worldwide had a crash Thursday, and a small recovery on Friday. Despite what analysts say, it's for reasons unknown.

 

The "AI" bubble finally starting to leak would be one obvious reason.  When it finally bursts, it's gonna be a big one.


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  #3270654 11-Aug-2024 19:40
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neb: The "AI" bubble finally starting to leak would be one obvious reason [for the stock market crash].  When it finally bursts, it's gonna be a big one.



Every stock analyst I read has a different reason.

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neb:

 

The "AI" bubble finally starting to leak would be one obvious reason.  When it finally bursts, it's gonna be a big one.

 



I tend to agree, so much promise, so much under delivering. although I wonder if this is the experts trying to get guardrails against the likes of Elon Musk politicising Twitter with ai driven absurdities.

anyway enough of these fools, as it gets easier to mock them.

Some of todays polls give some good avgs, although I think she will win some sunbelt too. I do tend to agree with a prior post, Shapiro is what the centre right were hoping for. not "coach", none the less Walz may not be as good a politician. hes pretty centrist.

 


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The Guardian: ‘And really, that song?’: Celine Dion rebukes Trump for unauthorized use of Titanic tune

Celine Dion, the Canadian pop icon, has rebuked and mocked the Donald Trump campaign for unauthorized use of her hit song about the sinking Titanic as a musical interlude during a recent rally.

Dion, beloved by millions of people for her tear-jerking ballads, issued a strong and somewhat tongue-in-cheek statement on Saturday, a day after Trump played a video clip of My Heart Will Go On from the film Titanic at a campaign event in Bozeman, Montana.

A statement published on X and on Dion’s Instagram account, which has more than 8m followers, said: “Celine Dion’s management team and her record label, Sony Music Entertainment Canada Inc, became aware of the unauthorized usage of the video, recording, musical performance, and likeness of Celine Dion singing My Heart Will Go On at a Donald Trump/JD Vance campaign rally in Montana.

“In no way is this use authorized, and Celine Dion does not endorse this or any similar use.

“… And really, THAT song?”
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https://www.axios.com/2024/08/11/trump-slump-assassination-attempt-2024-election

 

An interesting look inside how Trump's numbers have been rapidly falling since Biden stepped aside:

 

Republican sources close to Trump tell us he realizes he needs to bring new focus to a message that can be meandering and self-indulgent. But it's Trump. So a new script is often fictional wishfulness.

 

Trump "is struggling to get past his anger," a top Republican source tells us. - I bet he is! 😀


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  #3270707 12-Aug-2024 08:45
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TeaLeaf:

 

maybe, but I thought they had been pretty open. What do you think needs more light shined on it?

 

 

they'd want to know how the teen managed to haul a massive gun onto the roof, and if they can find that out, maybe explain that he amassed all the equipment by himself.

 

the idea is that they haven't proofed the teen got no assistance. if he got assistance, who helped him.

 

kid was walking around without massive gun, scouting and seen by everybody, and then he managed to haul a massive gun onto the roof without being seen by anybody.

 

there is a possibility the gun was planted there by someone else perhaps, and then well, if that's the case, who?


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