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#2034241 12-Jun-2018 11:01

He (UN) also said the focus should turn next to the humanitarian situation in North Korea, where the UN is seeking to furnish some $111 million in assistance. Mr Trump last week suggested Asian nations, rather than the US, should supply potential aid.

Good idea Donald, but leave it all to Asian nations and the UN, for everything, you are not wanted, trusted, or needed.

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#2034276 12-Jun-2018 11:42

tdgeek:

Live link

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/trump-kim-meeting-live-updates-latest-time-date-location-stream-a8392686.html

And another live link from a major Singapore channel https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/livetv

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#2034284 12-Jun-2018 11:56

DaveB:

And another live link from a major Singapore channel https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/livetv

If I heard that right, only the first 45 minutes are scheduled for one on one with interpreters.

I'm LOL hearing the commentators saying this is just like watching the lead-up to a prize fight.

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#2034286 12-Jun-2018 11:59

Fred99:

DaveB:

And another live link from a major Singapore channel https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/livetv

If I heard that right, only the first 45 minutes are scheduled for one on one with interpreters.

I'm LOL hearing the commentators saying this is just like watching the lead-up to a prize fight.

yeah,. and in 4 hours when we talk about it, it will be a yawn session, all hype and all we see are handshakes, we get on well, we'll see

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#2034297 12-Jun-2018 12:08

Fred99:

DaveB:

And another live link from a major Singapore channel https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/livetv

If I heard that right, only the first 45 minutes are scheduled for one on one with interpreters.

I'm LOL hearing the commentators saying this is just like watching the lead-up to a prize fight.

Yeah, my mistake.

And Trump is tweeting from his limo about some Supreme Court Case! Crazy!

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#2034327 12-Jun-2018 12:42

20 minutes to go before this historic meeting and Trump tweets again about one of his staff. His mind cannot be on the game! Take his phone off him.

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#2034373 12-Jun-2018 13:06

Just watched them meet, smiles, shake hands

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#2034388 12-Jun-2018 13:23

The meeting is going great. Refreshments are on the way - this just spotted leaving the presidential caterers on Jurong Gateway Rd.

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#2034393 12-Jun-2018 13:35

Rodman needs a lesson in comprehension and listening

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#2034414 12-Jun-2018 13:53

One on one over, KJU smiling, Trump not. Just what I saw, not the way it might be. KJU is defiintely relaxed, Trump appears more serious

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#2034421 12-Jun-2018 14:00

tdgeek:

Rodman needs a lesson in comprehension and listening

Rodman is a flake. A flake may help decide the fate of the world.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#2034531 12-Jun-2018 15:50

Quote:- Trump said the meeting was "very, very good" and that they have an "excellent relationship".

But he said it was 10/10 with G7 leaders!!

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#2034549 12-Jun-2018 16:41

They have emerged, and are off to a signing.

Enjoying CNN coverage

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#2034585 12-Jun-2018 19:26

As far as a short summit meeting, it was successful. I t has ended with an agreement to commit to denuclearisation in return for security guarantees. Nice and vague.

A few things I saw.

- CNN was very good, a wide range of commentators, from This is all Trumps doing, his war words and sanctions worked. To, praise on The SK leader.

- Some saw that US did a LOT today, by giving parity. Flags were even, walking through doors was even, thats a LOT for Asians. Then they say now we can trade that for denuclearisation! Crazy.

-Trump kept his cool, maybe he thought he has to.

- They played many short clips of Republican Fox News bashing Obama for talking about visiting despots. Really bashing. Then they played Fox News clips praising Trump for a visit to meet KJU! Funny as.

-US denuclearisation means full. NK cannot possibly mean full, many said that, so that is still a big hole. Security guarantee? I guess thats if its a 100% denuke, so meaningless.

- I wasnt aware Russia and China and other countries have relaxed sanctions, I wasnt aware of that.

- Huge talk on acting badly to G7 and embracing a despot, and Putin.

Overall a good day.

My opinion is that NK have succeeded, as everyone says they won today. They are a nuclear state, now a recognised country. KJU got a rock star welcome in Singapore. Other countries will want his visit. The US will never get denuclearisation, at least not what they want. They will get a freeze, maybe get inspections to guarantee a freeze, as the US wont move out of SK. Over time these negotiations will slow and stall. KJU will be happy to denuke, as the US has to as well there, so that points towards a freeze IMHO. While the US negotiations slow and stall, other countries reduce sanctions, increase trade and help, and NK is on its way. US is miffed as they arent prepared to exchange like for like (Denuke NK and US in Asia)

Short term, KJU will continue freeze on weapons, so it will be peaceful in the peninsula. There will be negative feedback by Americans for embracing a leader with KJU's past, especially when denuke expectations stall. I expect the the war will be officially ended soon. Moon will receive Nobel Peace Prize

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#2034591 12-Jun-2018 20:01

Text of the declaration:

Joint Statement of President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea at the Singapore Summit.

President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (DPRK) held a first, historic summit in Singapore on June 12, 2018.

President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un conducted a comprehensive, in-depth, and sincere exchange of opinions on the issues related to the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations and the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK, and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

Convinced that the establishment of new U.S.-DPRK relations will contribute to the peace and prosperity of the Korean Peninsula and of the world, and recognizing that mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un state the following:

1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new U.S.-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.

2. The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.

3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work towards complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

Having acknowledged that the U.S.-DPRK summit - the first in history - was an epochal event of great significance and overcoming decades of tensions and hostilities between the two countries and for the opening of a new future, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un commit to implement the stipulations in this joint statement fully and expeditiously. The United States and the DPRK commit to hold follow-on negotiations led by the U.S. Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, and a relevant high-level DPRK official, at the earliest possible date, to implement the outcomes of the U.S.-DPRK summit.

President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea have committed to cooperate for the development of new U.S.-DPRK relations and for the promotion of peace, prosperity, and security of the Korean Peninsula and of the world.

June 12, 2018
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