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#3274121 21-Aug-2024 12:22

quickymart: What a surprise, after Trump crows about polls showing him in the lead (before Biden stepped down), now he knows he's losing and it's reflected in the polls...but here we have James calling them "fake" 🙄

Trump in December: “This isn’t fair! They’re just cheating! I know they’re lying about the rules. I should’ve won! I’m the best. They only won because they’re pretending. It’s not my fault they’re dumb and can’t see that I’m better! They just made up the rules to make me lose!”

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#3274181 21-Aug-2024 15:18

FineWine:

No good polling a hillbilly in the back and beyond of the Ozark’s if they cannot get to the polling booth.

Thats why they use LV - Likely Voters and RV - Registered voters,

You will always lose or even gain a few, such is the realty of it all.

Im most concerned with young voters, they might have said they will vote XYZ but its about getting them to the ballot box.

I cant believe early voting has started, feels odd given Harris/Walz advertising campaign wont begin until after their Labior day (2nd Sept)

But I guess they know this like a science and reality is, its those last 60 days that stay the freshest in peoples minds.

RFK jr now says he will join Trump. Will that last 4% join Trump too? It doesnt appear so when you include Indies. But it certainly would change things if they did. But he only had 4-5% left in only 19 ballots, so it could hurt less.

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#3274184 21-Aug-2024 16:13

So disrespectful..

Kiwi vernacular has a better substitute for the 'G'.

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#3274187 21-Aug-2024 16:28

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I don't know if the polls capture rural Republican voters at all, but Trump is at risk of going to jail if Kamala is in charge of the prisons. Hunter Biden would be happy though.

This is a silly comment. Kamala has nothing to do with either, beyond the highly unlikely possibility of a presidential pardon for Hunter. If you accept her commitment to the rule of law, which I do, she would not involve herself in these proceedings. Trump's risk of going to jail is up to the relevant judges and the various legal processes under way. So is Hunter Biden's.

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#3274189 21-Aug-2024 16:37

TeaLeaf:

RFK jr now says he will join Trump. Will that last 4% join Trump too? It doesnt appear so when you include Indies. But it certainly would change things if they did. But he only had 4-5% left in only 19 ballots, so it could hurt less.

Nobody wants him. He reached out to Kamala a few days ago 15th Aug (https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/14/politics/rfk-jr-harris-administration-role?cid=ios_app)

Nope a no go there. So now he reaches out to Trump 21st Aug (https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/20/politics/trump-consider-appointing-rfk-jr-administration-role?cid=ios_app )

Oh dear it must be so sad he can not live up to his family’s history.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#3274198 21-Aug-2024 17:45

FineWine: Nobody wants Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

When you outdo "I've got a worm in my brain" with "I staged a bicycle + bear accident in New York Central Park", yeah, nobody but Trump would take you on.

American use the phrase "bat sh*t crazy" to describe JFK Jr.

Of course "bat sh*t crazy" Trump supporters will "go ape sh*t" when Trump loses again, but that's a different story.

English Language and Usage: Where did the phrase "batsh*t crazy" come from?

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#3274201 21-Aug-2024 18:32

FineWine:

Oh dear it must be so sad he can not live up to his family’s history.

If he stays in it hurt Trumps worse, but if he joins Trump it appears to hurt Harris more, so it does still worry me. In trying to get a role with both is cringey but it might say something who he went to first "officially" even after that call recorded by his son to Trump. But Im waiting until post DNC and her campaign starting proper to see if the momentum continues.

She has a substantive +2.8 GE average lead. If that continues to 5.0+ id say its all over as its not going backward.

The other is unfavourability is now down to JUST +2.4, the most favorable candidate in recent time. Trump after bidens speech got down to +8.1 unfavourability, but his loose mouth and hate has him growing increasingly unfavorable at +9.4. These are two to keep an eye on to take t temperature of the match.

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#3274203 21-Aug-2024 18:48

Republicans: "We're not weird!"

Right Wing Watch: Flashpoint ‘prophet’ Joseph Z says antichrist spirit chose Tim Walz to fit in with ‘overlord lizard mafia’ and its ‘goblin masters’

Monday night’s edition of the FlashPoint program on televangelist Kenneth Copeland’s Victory Channel focused on the selection of Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz as the Democratic candidate for vice president.

Guest Rick Green, an associate of Christian nationalist historian David Barton, declared Walz a “power-hungry tyrant” who is “perfect for the Communist Democrats.” If Green was hoping that would be the program’s most memorable attack line, he would soon be sorely disappointed.

That honor goes to “prophet” Joseph Z. Here’s part of his answer to his first question from host Gene Bailey, who asked if Z was encouraged or discouraged by what’s going on the country right now:

I believe very clearly the spirit of the Lord is making a way for the body of Christ to go through in this time. And you know even when we bring up guys like Tim Walz and look at what’s going on, people say he’s you know midwestern folksy.

I have another word for him, being from Minnesota myself, and it’s weird. The guy’s just weird.

You see the way he hugs his wife. You see the way he does everything. I believe the Spirit of the Lord is letting them overextend their reach.

I believe he’s giving them a sense of confidence that’s actually going to be a surprise silver lining turnaround in this whole narrative. I believe the spirit of the Lord is going to bring victory and breakthrough.

And you know it’s interesting how the spirit of antichrist just loves to pick these people that fit right in with the wicked overlord lizard mafia that is really driven by their goblin masters, and when you’re looking at this, I believe that’s exactly what we’re facing right now—a spirit of antichrist that wants to have its way.

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#3274213 21-Aug-2024 19:30

https://newrepublic.com/post/185036/donald-trump-activists-dnc-kamala-harris-awry

MAGA tried to infiltrate the 2024 Democratic Conference. It didn't go particularly well 😀

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#3274257 21-Aug-2024 19:52

quickymart:

It didn't go particularly well 😀

No it didnt and wasnt just activists, they got told the crashing a party and best they get out while they can. So much for Trump trying to run a mini RNS up the road at the Trump hotel, Ive not seen much news about it. Thats where the Gaza folk should be protesting, the GOP would have flattened Gaza as per Trumps words in the Debate.

IMO Michelle Obama showed her husband up with her speech.

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#3274259 21-Aug-2024 19:55

The Washington Post - Opinion - Donald Trump’s excess baggage (20 Aug 2024)

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#3274282 21-Aug-2024 21:35

quickymart: https://newrepublic.com/post/185036/donald-trump-activists-dnc-kamala-harris-awry

MAGA tried to infiltrate the 2024 Democratic Conference. It didn't go particularly well 😀

And this is the problem with politics in the US today: The far right is endlessly bragging over how it trashed the what-passes-for-in-the-US-as-left, and now the what-passes-for-in-the-US-as-left is bragging about how it trashed the far right. Great, I'm sure all your bros will be proud of you and you'll get lots of likes, have a biscuit.

In the meantime a lot of the country is living hand-to-mouth, can't afford medical care, can't afford to send their kids to decent schools, can barely keep a roof over their heads... but at least there's Youtube videos of your team engaging in masturbatory [*] point-scoring against the other team to keep you occupied while you wonder how you're going to pay the next rent instalment.

[*] I couldn't think of a word that fits the situation better, sorry.

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#3274421 22-Aug-2024 10:33

Another JD Vance joke goes wrong as quip about Tim Walz comes back to bite Trump | The Independent

Vance trying humour now, but complete fail, the worst thing I don't think most Repub who very much dislike him is, they are essentially voting for him as Trumps condition combined with age surely makes Trump not making the 4 years highly likely and if they have started the autocracy of Proj'25 plus Two more Trump judges on SCOTUS for the retiring ones, it could end up Vance for Dictator.

Trump pulled out of a Detroit News Interview because they corrected a lie over Crime rates. His lying ways have been in press of late with ex aid saying he said to her (paraphrase) "just say it, if you say it enough times, whether true or not people will believe it" which is very much part of Rus propaganda playbook, Normalisation.

RFKjr supposedly pulling out by end of the week, source - The Independent.

and something I saw that reminded me from the Telegraph - Donnie has had Beyonces-Freedom Song used under permission by Harris as her theme song, posted on X Trump arrving at Campaign Rally with the song in the background. Its unsure it it was a troll gone sideways or not. But he has used dozens of unlicensed/permitted artists from Celine Dion in the RNZ (which she said was a weird choice for that "Heart will gone on Track" in her X reply to Bruce Springsteen, many with cease and desist orders. as usual Trump just refuses that NO means NO.

Last bit from the Independent I thought was funny live but supposedly its gone wild on SM, B Obama using a subtle hand gesture when discussing Trumps obsession with crowd sizes, I found it more funny was that live it was also a mockery of Trumps horrid body language and the hand thing, very much reducing at the right timing.
Social media goes wild for Obama’s hand gesture innuendo while talking Trump’s crowd sizes | The Independent

Stats wise, Harris has her avg GE lead increasing with a big jump over night to +3.3

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#3274429 22-Aug-2024 10:51

TeaLeaf:

Trump pulled out of a Detroit News Interview because they corrected a lie over Crime rates. His lying ways have been in press of late with ex aid saying he said to her (paraphrase) "just say it, if you say it enough times, whether true or not people will believe it" which is very much part of Rus propaganda playbook, Normalisation.

This is not the Russian playbook. Joseph Goebbels said that. It's a Nazi reference.

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#3274449 22-Aug-2024 12:32

Trump can give it, but not take it.

Politico: Trump slams Obamas’ DNC speeches for ‘getting personal’

Former President Donald Trump responded Wednesday to the Obamas’ heated criticism of him at the Democratic National Convention, casting their “personal” attacks as reason to justify his own behavior.

“Did you see Barack Hussein Obama last night taking little shots? He was taking shots at your president and so was Michelle,” Trump said at a campaign rally in Asheboro, North Carolina. “You know, they always say, ‘Sir, please stick to policy, don’t get personal,’ but they’re getting personal all night, these people.”

Later at the rally, Trump polled the crowd: “Should I get personal, or should I not get personal?” The former won by cheer volume.

Trump was responding to former President Barack Obama and former first lady Michelle Obama’s speeches Tuesday night at the DNC, where they abandoned their 2016 call for their party to “go high” above inflammatory insults and animated the convention with a venomous rebuke of the former president.

“Going small is petty, it’s unhealthy, and, quite frankly, it’s unpresidential,” Michelle Obama said to the raucous crowd. “It’s his same old con: doubling down on ugly, misogynistic, racist lies as a substitute for real ideas and solutions that will actually make people’s lives better.”

And in one split-second moment that made the audience go wild, Barack Obama went low — suggesting Trump’s size anxiety didn’t just extend to crowd sizes, while looking down at his hands.
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