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#2902750 15-Apr-2022 18:54

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Postal stamps showing a Ukrainian service member and the Russian warship Moskva.

They should do a followup print run which shows him doing it to a string of bubbles on the surface.

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#2902770 15-Apr-2022 20:34

I bought some of these before the UA postal service website got totally destroyed by everyone in the world.

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#2902771 15-Apr-2022 20:37

Oldmanakbar: I bought some of these before the UA postal service website got totally destroyed by everyone in the world.

I did have the feeling they're going to be selling more of these outside Ukraine than for actual use as postage...

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#2902843 16-Apr-2022 07:03

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/15/politics/russia-us-diplomatic-note/index.html

Russia protesting US support. So, its ok to attack a country for no reason, but its not ok for friends of the victim to help?

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#2902867 16-Apr-2022 09:00

tdgeek:
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/15/politics/russia-us-diplomatic-note/index.html
"Russia this week formally protested the US' ongoing shipment of weapons to Ukraine, sending a diplomatic note to the State Department warning of 'unpredictable consequences' should the support continue, according to two US officials and another source familiar with the document."

I think Putin should worry about the next 10 years of 'unpredictable consequences' in Russia.

The Origins of Russian Authoritarianism

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#2902872 16-Apr-2022 09:16

The NY Times - How Russia Media Uses Fox News to Make Its Case

The conservative network has appeared hundreds of times in Russian media.

today

As Western leaders introduced sanctions against Russia for the invasion of Ukraine, Tucker Carlson, the Fox News host, said seizing personal property from Russian oligarchs went too far.

“No American government had ever done anything like that before,” he said.

While the segment was aimed at Fox News’s conservative audience, it found another audience in Russia.

The argument was parroted by RIA Novosti, a Russian state news agency, which wrote that “the average U.S. citizen is simply horrified by what is happening.” ...

Sergey Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minister, who has made several false claims about the war - including that Russia never attacked Ukraine - singled out Fox News for praise last month.

“We understood long ago that there is no such thing as an independent Western media,” Mr. Lavrov told the state television station RT, adding that “only Fox News is trying to present some alternative point of view.”

An article on the Russian news site Ria Novosti featured content from a Fox News segment.

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#2902884 16-Apr-2022 10:43

On the plus side the "we hate their government, not their people" might mean less appetite to nuke the US.

I wonder how Tucker feels about the Russia media praising him as "one of the good ones."

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#2902994 16-Apr-2022 16:44

Young Russian YouTuber discuses reasons for high poll results. The primary polling agency is state owned. In case you're wondering about the title - it is illegal to describe the related events as a war and doing so may result in jail time.

The person has moved to Georgia temporarily. One of several countries in the region offering visa free travel. A large number of software developers and similar trades have relocated to be these countries.

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#2903017 16-Apr-2022 17:48

Kingdragonfly , I do like the other videos by Kraut

How Vodka ruined Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK7l55ZOVIc

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The stereotype of the drunk Russian is common and widespread. The Russian alcoholic is, however, more than just a stereotype. Downing a bottle of Vodka, slurring his words and making a fool of himself, the Russian with a drinking problem is the result of four centuries of a systemic alcohol problem that is by now deeply engrained within Russian society.

Last couple of minutes of this below you get the story of Russia's Dogtoy Belarus.

Illiberal democracies explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TxSuYKxuNo

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#2903083 16-Apr-2022 19:37

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#2903145 17-Apr-2022 08:13

Another rat fleeing a super yacht.

One of Putin's "unpredictable consequences'

The Guardian: Marine Le Pen proposes closer Nato-Russia ties after Ukraine war

The French far-right presidential candidate Marine Le Pen has said that once the Russia-Ukraine war is over, she would propose closer links between Nato and Russia and pull France out of the military command of the US-led alliance
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Le Pen, who is polling at 45% to Emmanuel Macron’s 55% for the presidential runoff vote on 24 April, called the press conference on foreign policy to try to take the spotlight off her previous close relationship with Vladimir Putin
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As she spoke, a protester stood up holding a heart-shaped picture of Le Pen and Putin shaking hands at the Kremlin in 2017. The protester was tackled to the ground by security guards and dragged out along the floor.

In 2014, Le Pen’s party – then called the Front National, and since renamed National Rally – borrowed €9m from a Russian-Czech bank for local election campaigns. It is still paying off the loan.

Five years ago when Le Pen also faced Macron in the 2017 runoff, which she lost heavily, Putin hosted her at the Kremlin, posing for a handshake.

At the time, Le Pen declared admiringly that she shared the same values as Putin and that a “new world order” was emerging with Putin, Donald Trump and her at the helm.

She has changed tack on Russia since the outbreak of war
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#2903151 17-Apr-2022 08:50

Le Pen, Putin, Trump as new world order? more like end of modern civilization.

wow reminds me of Q'Anon, except that they had Trump fighting Bill Gates & Biden who would lead the order

those worrying about new covid strain, have no idea what they really should be worried about

Where is Merkel when we need her? Bring back Merkel!

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#2903175 17-Apr-2022 11:01

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Where is Merkel when we need her? Bring back Merkel!

What? Merkel's completely discredited now!

The other day my kids left the air hose hanging over the bumper of my truck after filling their bike tires.
When I backed out I tweaked the filler end off, then had to grab it as it snaked across the garage floor - compressed air, escaping from a 1/2 inch hose at 100 psi, is quite powerful.

Just one (the Yamal) pipeline between Russia and Germany is 5 feet wide, runs at 1,000 psi - and feeds 100 million m3 of Natural Gas per day into Germany..
Every one of those m3's contains 35,000 BTU's of energy (about the same as a litre of diesel)..

The whole business model of Germany's economy for the past 20 years has been to import Russian energy below market prices and use it to produce competitive industrial products.
Martin Brudermüller, the head of the world's biggest chemical corporation, German-based BASF, recently said it's an undeniable fact that "Russian gas is the foundation of German industry's global competitiveness."

For the past 20 years, from 2000 after becoming the leader of the CDU - which was the Opposition from 2002 - then her time Chancellor from 2005 to 2021, Merkel's been Putin's buddy.
While she was growling at Greece and demanding harsh reforms and austerity measures during it's 2007-08 sovereign debt crisis, Germany was gorging on cheap Russian energy.
The CDU dismantled Germany’s nuclear power plants, and failed to ensure viable alternatives or strategic energy reserves in case of disruption or Russian threats to their energy supply.

But it's not just her. Olaf Scholz, their new (SPD) chancellor, was a big supporter of Nord Stream 2 bypassing Ukraine to reduce it's leverage on Russia.
Former SPD chancellor Gerhard Schröder was also Putin's buddy and earned hundreds of thousands of euros a year as a board member of Russian gas companies Gazprom and Rosneft.

The US had been telling them for years to be aware of their energy dependence on Russia. They promised to construct two new LNG terminals, but it didn't happen.

The EU, with Germany leading, has paid Russia 35 billion euros for energy since the invasion and has only given 1 billion euros to fund Ukraine’s defence.
Now they all get to hang their heads in shame. The old saying “He that goeth to bedde wyth Dogges, aryseth with fleas.” is appropriate here.

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#2903350 18-Apr-2022 00:33

More superior Russian technology, an analysis of a Russian military drone that crashed and was captured by Ukrainian troops:

It's in Ukrainian but there are various analyses posted online, including an annotated video on the Twitters.

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#2903451 18-Apr-2022 10:45

One can see that Putin and China's Xi Jinping have been swapping notes.
Toxic combination of CCP and mad Kleptocrat Putin.

Wonder who is providing the CCTV cameras and security systems for these camps.
No doubt Putin got the full rundown on what a success the camps in Xinjiang have been,
on top of lessons learnt in Tibet.

Xi Jinping probably told Putin the west is powerless, look what I get away with.

How a fenced camp for Ukrainians was tracked down to a former chemical weapons dump deep within Russia
https://inews.co.uk/news/ukraine-russia-mariupol-refugees-camp-leonidovka-1579512

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As i revealed on Saturday, Ukraine’s human rights ombudsman, Lyudmyla Denisova, has warned that more than 400 people, including 147 children, are in a fenced camp near the city of Penza
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Given the large numbers deported to Russia there are probably a lot more camps, the new gulags.

The camp at Leonidovka, near Penza in Russia, is seen in this satellite image from 2022. (Photo: Bing Maps/Maxar)

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