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sir1963
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  #3203248 5-Mar-2024 09:03
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sen8or:

 

They really are trying to do everything in the early part of their term, probably on the hopes that in 18 - 24 months, when its time to start campaigning again, the public would have forgotten all the crap thats gone on at the start.

 

I remember car regos going down significantly not that many years ago, no issue with them going back up. In terms of car ownership, its a minor cost.

 

I don't have an issue with the increase in fines either, its one tax that its legal to avoid/evade.

 

Money for roads, right out of the national playbook, but in a country like ours with population spread etc, roads are what we have so if we can make them better / safer, its not a terrible thing.

 

I don't think Luxon will last the term, not sure who'll take over, but he is stumbling from one gaffe to another. It won't be long before the National board will want to step in and try for someone less tarnished.

 

 

 

 

It should be money for rail.

 

Reality is, big trucks for transporting goods is on a death watch. As fossil fuesl decline in usage , the price will go up.

 

Telsas electric trucks are a joke, the power to weight ratio as well as load capacity is poor, the time to charge one is high, and the battery life (and cost to replace is financially garbage)

 

We need to be pouring money into rail, electric rail, electrify the whole thing.




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  #3203252 5-Mar-2024 09:07
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Need a way to get stuff from the North Island to the South Island as well. Some sort of vehicle that can float on water would probably be convenient if it could be made to work. I wonder if anyone has invented one yet...





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  #3203262 5-Mar-2024 09:34
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mudguard: If car rego is increasing by $50 I hate to think what it will cost the big motorbikes.


$50 .... don't forget the licence fee is just one component of the annual re-rego fee.


Motorbike fees are larger because of the larger ACC component.


Yes, I own a large bike, but I choose to do so.



Yeah the ACC component seems ludicrous. If it's risk based I don't know why they don't apply the same logic to skifield day passes, rugby club subscription etc.

Oh little Johnny's sub for the year at is $100 but the ACC is $1000.



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  #3203272 5-Mar-2024 10:03
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As for the fines going up, mention of $2200 in Australia for doing under 10km above speed limit, though most times it is $350.

 

Seems harsh when 30km speed limits have been put up left right and centre. There’s one part in Tuam street Christchurch where it goes from 50km/hr to 30km/hr and then about 50 to 100 metres later back up to 50km/hr. Easy to get caught out there.

 

Another road I take it even the police agree with me that 30km/hr is to slow as followed many a police car at 40km/hr. Also never seen them pull any one up, but if did would pay $30 and need I’d be the one annoying others by sticking to 30km/hr, but a bit rough when police and even been behind a bus doing more.

 

To do massive financial hit could mean food not on table for some, but they’d learn lessen from a lower hit. So I don’t agree with higher fines for mister meaner offences.

 

Increasing registrations to cover road costs also makes people pay more who use the roads less then others.


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  #3203278 5-Mar-2024 10:41
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mudguard:

Yeah the ACC component seems ludicrous. If it's risk based I don't know why they don't apply the same logic to skifield day passes, rugby club subscription etc.

Oh little Johnny's sub for the year at is $100 but the ACC is $1000.

 

NZR used to have a partnership with ACC, unsure if that is still the case but there was a recognition it was in everyone's interest to promote injury prevention for players, especially around things like warm-up, scrummaging and in recent years, headknocks.

 

Meanwhile, motorbike rider levies cover a fraction of the actual injuries ACC pays out on, and that's before you get to the actual risk profile of commuting using a vehicle that has literally no crash protection at all. 

 

https://www.acc.co.nz/assets/business/6b35044f89/understand-motorcycle-levies-infographic.pdf

 

 


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  #3203279 5-Mar-2024 10:42
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SaltyNZ:

 

Need a way to get stuff from the North Island to the South Island as well. Some sort of vehicle that can float on water would probably be convenient if it could be made to work. I wonder if anyone has invented one yet...

 

 

The previous plan seemed to be digging two giant moneypits either side of the Cook Strait and then simply draining it into your two new massive holes so you could then drive across, from what I understand. No boats required.  


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  #3203282 5-Mar-2024 10:48
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GV27:

 

SaltyNZ:

 

Need a way to get stuff from the North Island to the South Island as well. Some sort of vehicle that can float on water would probably be convenient if it could be made to work. I wonder if anyone has invented one yet...

 

 

The previous plan seemed to be digging two giant moneypits either side of the Cook Strait and then simply draining it into your two new massive holes so you could then drive across, from what I understand. No boats required.  

 

 

 

 

It's not an optimal solution, sure, but at least it is a solution.





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  #3203283 5-Mar-2024 10:48
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SaltyNZ:

 

Need a way to get stuff from the North Island to the South Island as well. Some sort of vehicle that can float on water would probably be convenient if it could be made to work. I wonder if anyone has invented one yet...

 

 

 

 

I think they are waiting for the farewell spit to meet up somewhere around Foxton 


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  #3203291 5-Mar-2024 11:02
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michaelmurfy: Seriously to hell with this government and what it is now doing to those people like my Wife fully reliant on public transport. My Wife is already annoyed that her monthly train ticket has gone up by 10% (to $330/mo) and now this.

In conspiracy mode t does look suspiciously like get people off the train and off the cycle lanes and get them back into cars. Cars are a larger contributor to GDP and don't require any annoying and contentious funding formulas.

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  #3203302 5-Mar-2024 11:46
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sir1963:

 

 

 

 

 

I think they are waiting for the farewell spit to meet up somewhere around Foxton 

 

 

Better chance with a tectonic plate slip pushing Te Waipounamu closer to Te Ika-a-Maui . Farewell Spit will say farewell as it slips beneath rising ocean levels.


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  #3203306 5-Mar-2024 11:54
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gzt:
michaelmurfy: Seriously to hell with this government and what it is now doing to those people like my Wife fully reliant on public transport. My Wife is already annoyed that her monthly train ticket has gone up by 10% (to $330/mo) and now this.

In conspiracy mode t does look suspiciously like get people off the train and off the cycle lanes and get them back into cars. Cars are a larger contributor to GDP and don't require any annoying and contentious funding formulas.

 

My wife takes the train into the city for if she doesn't need to travel during the day for meetings, an average week would days on the train one by car. She has a car park in the city but prefers the train to avoid the accelerator-brake, accelerator-brake, accelerator-brake all the way in and better for the planet.If they bring in park and ride charges and hike the train fares she will probably start taking her car every day.


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  #3203312 5-Mar-2024 12:12
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https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/political/510860/politics-live-government-defends-transport-plan-luxon-has-to-fly-commercial >> oh, well, I guess this makes it all okay then. We didn't need to be told about a proposed increase in costs.

 

I wonder what other costs or taxes or whatever they'll decide to impose that we "didn't need to" be told about 🙄


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  #3203328 5-Mar-2024 12:44
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Does anyone feel better now under this new improved government?

 

 





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  #3203329 5-Mar-2024 12:46
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Rikkitic:

 

Does anyone feel better now under this new improved government?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I voted for National this time for a variety of reasons.

 

However, I would not do it now.


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  #3203335 5-Mar-2024 12:56
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Rikkitic:

Does anyone feel better now under this new improved government?


 



They campaigned on a list of things they were going to do.

They were voted in, with people knowing about that list.

People are now upset that they are doing the things they said they would.

People complained that the last government didn't do the things they said they would.


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