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#3203342 5-Mar-2024 13:04

Rikkitic:

Does anyone feel better now under this new improved government?

Oh, the improvements just never stop coming! 🙄 /sarcasm

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#3203347 5-Mar-2024 13:07

Ge0rge: They campaigned on a list of things they were going to do.

They were voted in, with people knowing about that list.

People are now upset that they are doing the things they said they would.

That's not strictly correct - if you asked any National supporter they would constantly bemoan Labour and say that National are now turning things around. Ditto for any ACT or NZ First supporters.

I think people who didn't vote for National (myself included) are unhappy about what they're doing. Their voters/base will be over the moon however.

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#3203349 5-Mar-2024 13:08

rugrat:

As for the fines going up, mention of $2200 in Australia for doing under 10km above speed limit, though most times it is $350.

Seems harsh when 30km speed limits have been put up left right and centre. There’s one part in Tuam street Christchurch where it goes from 50km/hr to 30km/hr and then about 50 to 100 metres later back up to 50km/hr. Easy to get caught out there.

Another road I take it even the police agree with me that 30km/hr is to slow as followed many a police car at 40km/hr. Also never seen them pull any one up, but if did would pay $30 and need I’d be the one annoying others by sticking to 30km/hr, but a bit rough when police and even been behind a bus doing more.

To do massive financial hit could mean food not on table for some, but they’d learn lessen from a lower hit. So I don’t agree with higher fines for mister meaner offences.

Increasing registrations to cover road costs also makes people pay more who use the roads less then others.

Love that!!

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#3203352 5-Mar-2024 13:10

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Yeah the ACC component seems ludicrous. If it's risk based I don't know why they don't apply the same logic to skifield day passes, rugby club subscription etc.

Oh little Johnny's sub for the year at is $100 but the ACC is $1000.

NZR used to have a partnership with ACC, unsure if that is still the case but there was a recognition it was in everyone's interest to promote injury prevention for players, especially around things like warm-up, scrummaging and in recent years, headknocks.

Meanwhile, motorbike rider levies cover a fraction of the actual injuries ACC pays out on, and that's before you get to the actual risk profile of commuting using a vehicle that has literally no crash protection at all.

https://www.acc.co.nz/assets/business/6b35044f89/understand-motorcycle-levies-infographic.pdf

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#3203356 5-Mar-2024 13:22

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Safer on my 656cc than someone on a 50cc scooter bike

A logging truck hits you just as hard!

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#3203363 5-Mar-2024 13:59

Rikkitic:

tdgeek:

Safer on my 656cc than someone on a 50cc scooter bike

A logging truck hits you just as hard!

Scooter is

a) lower down, harder to see from and harder for other traffic to see them

b) Smaller, thiner tyres, less stability

c) p!ss poor brakes in comparison

d) no acceleration to get yourself out of trouble

e) less likely to be wearing leathers/boots (or equiv) , have see shorts/t-shirt/jandals more often on scooters, but stupid is not limited to them.

f) less experienced, bigger bikes would have seen the rider on a wider range of roads/surfaces/etc etc etc rather than just around town.

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#3203376 5-Mar-2024 14:36

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michaelmurfy: Seriously to hell with this government and what it is now doing to those people like my Wife fully reliant on public transport. My Wife is already annoyed that her monthly train ticket has gone up by 10% (to $330/mo) and now this.

In conspiracy mode t does look suspiciously like get people off the train and off the cycle lanes and get them back into cars. Cars are a larger contributor to GDP and don't require any annoying and contentious funding formulas.

My wife takes the train into the city for if she doesn't need to travel during the day for meetings, an average week would days on the train one by car. She has a car park in the city but prefers the train to avoid the accelerator-brake, accelerator-brake, accelerator-brake all the way in and better for the planet.If they bring in park and ride charges and hike the train fares she will probably start taking her car every day.

Unless it's Wellington, where they removed car parking, and decided to add even more bus lanes. But only because the buses won't be able to go up and down Lambton Quay anymore. And they still have not fixed public transport.

More bus lanes coming Wellington – this time to harbour quays | The Post

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#3203394 5-Mar-2024 15:09

Rikkitic:

Does anyone feel better now under this new improved government?

I mean... it beats the hell out of pretending the exactly same marginalised groups getting the rough end of the stick is somehow better because it made people feel good about who they voted for.

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#3203403 5-Mar-2024 15:31

GV27:

Rikkitic:

Does anyone feel better now under this new improved government?

I mean... it beats the hell out of pretending the exactly same marginalised groups getting the rough end of the stick is somehow better because it made people feel good about who they voted for.

Oh c'mon. You can't think of anything better than that? Let's hear about some of the amazing visionary new policies being implemented, and the fantastic initiatives that are making life so much better for people!

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#3203456 5-Mar-2024 18:28

I don't think there's a big overlap between people who voted in National on a list of things they said they would do who are now upset that National are doing the things they said they would do. I suppose there are some? But mostly people get angry at governments who don't do the things they said they would.

Like the last one, biggest global crisis in 60 years notwithstanding.

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#3203464 5-Mar-2024 19:00

sir1963:

Scooter is

a) lower down, harder to see from and harder for other traffic to see them

b) Smaller, thiner tyres, less stability

c) p!ss poor brakes in comparison

d) no acceleration to get yourself out of trouble

e) less likely to be wearing leathers/boots (or equiv) , have see shorts/t-shirt/jandals more often on scooters, but stupid is not limited to them.

f) less experienced, bigger bikes would have seen the rider on a wider range of roads/surfaces/etc etc etc rather than just around town.

On an annual service my loaner was a cruiser. A low end one cc wise. Light, not fast but not easy, nearly fell off on a jogging speed left hand turn. Ok, not used to it, but, a bit delicate. My bike 93hp, 256kph top speed, 190kg wet, so on the heavy side for its capacity. Solid, quick and stable. Like all motorcycle riders, the risks of two wheels isnt, its the risk of the other idiots who make 2 wheels more risky. Many years riding, fell off once. At home on the driveway, snow. Foot dripped and fell off at 0kph lol. Broken clutch lever but rode to work

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#3203465 5-Mar-2024 19:07

GV27:

Rikkitic:

Does anyone feel better now under this new improved government?

I mean... it beats the hell out of pretending the exactly same marginalised groups getting the rough end of the stick is somehow better because it made people feel good about who they voted for.

Sorry GV but can you focus your posts on the present, not the past. You do that a lot. The past was voted 2023. Its over. Now its the new guys.

Disclosure, Ive been here a while, I know you, I like you, but this thread is about the new Government not the old. If the old screwed it for the new, then post. Although I said that 2017 and got ticked off by someone else.

Accountability.Labour did that then lost, now its the new guys. The Three Guys (past grocery chain?)

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#3203473 5-Mar-2024 19:16

SaltyNZ:

I don't think there's a big overlap between people who voted in National on a list of things they said they would do who are now upset that National are doing the things they said they would do. I suppose there are some? But mostly people get angry at governments who don't do the things they said they would.

Like the last one, biggest global crisis in 60 years notwithstanding.

I have no issue what they said they would do, which was undo. "WE" voted them in, the coalition.

My issue is not the undoing but the doing. I cannot see the doing. i was expecting (with low detail as the Coalition is new) on Inflation fixing, Police fixing, education fixing, health fixing, infrastructure fixing.

Im not seeing any of that. Now, there will be 'some" doing, but its not hard to articulate the plans for the "doing". Take Police as one example. Wasn't it 500 new cops? I think so. How is that going? If I was PM I would be yelling at NZ we are out there asking for new cops. By doing this and this and this. Its either going awesome or pretty darn good or not so good, doesnt matter. Its in action, thats all that matters.

Little of that

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#3203482 5-Mar-2024 19:48

The only thing I've heard of is the $500 million pothole prevention fund:

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/gps-2024-new-500-million-pothole-prevention-fund

It's oddly named if the intention is fixing existing potholes.

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#3203484 5-Mar-2024 19:51

tdgeek:

i was expecting (with low detail as the Coalition is new) on Inflation fixing, Police fixing, education fixing, health fixing, infrastructure fixing.

Im not seeing any of that.

I was not. I knew Labour wasn't doing a good job, but I didn't expect the current clown fiesta to be more useful than they were. They've done nothing but confirm my own bias against them so far. My personal hope for an own goal for them is their ego's get so big that they implode into utter dysfunctionality.

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