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#3203882 6-Mar-2024 19:39

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https://newsroom.co.nz/2024/03/05/luxons-failure-to-launch/ >> failure to launch, indeed.

Sell them, whats the cost of a Business Class ticket vs supporting ageing 757's? Now that would be smart and economic, more for tax cut shortfalls.

Above all, its sensible.

The ferries have a similar issue, but they are sunk, even though its an economy issue than a PM travel issue

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#3203884 6-Mar-2024 19:44

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Work with these kids for 10+ years, so they have a chance of a job, a life, of being able to earn money and respect from their community, not a gang.

It woild probably be costly on a spreadsheet. But that SS is today, what about future benefits? Sadly, Govts key issue is 3 years, or 6 years votes. So whether we like it or not, its all about short term issues and gains (vote gains) While it would not obviously happen, if there was a 10 year term, any Govt could work towards plans as they have time to make them happen. Now, no time. 2 years in its not about NZ its about the election in 12 months time. Keep voters happy, not keep NZ happy

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#3203901 6-Mar-2024 20:50

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sir1963:

Work with these kids for 10+ years, so they have a chance of a job, a life, of being able to earn money and respect from their community, not a gang.

It woild probably be costly on a spreadsheet. But that SS is today, what about future benefits? Sadly, Govts key issue is 3 years, or 6 years votes. So whether we like it or not, its all about short term issues and gains (vote gains) While it would not obviously happen, if there was a 10 year term, any Govt could work towards plans as they have time to make them happen. Now, no time. 2 years in its not about NZ its about the election in 12 months time. Keep voters happy, not keep NZ happy

Would you want a bad government for 10 years ?

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#3203964 7-Mar-2024 06:50

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Would you want a bad government for 10 years ?

Every Govt is apparently a bad govt. Perhaps if a Govt had time to put plans in place that won't be removed next cycle, some things may actually get done. Instead of voter cherries dominating the 3 year cycle

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#3203968 7-Mar-2024 07:04

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Every Govt is apparently a bad govt. Perhaps if a Govt had time to put plans in place that won't be removed next cycle, some things may actually get done. Instead of voter cherries dominating the 3 year cycle

This is the weakness of all so called democracies.
Remember the J.F Kennedy quote.
'Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.'
He knew what people are like.
Voters wordwide are mainly single issue voters, and vote for what they can get, not what their fellow citizens need.

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#3203970 7-Mar-2024 07:11

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tdgeek:

Every Govt is apparently a bad govt. Perhaps if a Govt had time to put plans in place that won't be removed next cycle, some things may actually get done. Instead of voter cherries dominating the 3 year cycle

This is the weakness of all so called democracies.
Remember the J.F Kennedy quote.
'Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.'
He knew what people are like.
Voters wordwide are mainly single issue voters, and vote for what they can get, not what their fellow citizens need.

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#3203974 7-Mar-2024 07:24

tdgeek:

sir1963:

Would you want a bad government for 10 years ?

Every Govt is apparently a bad govt. Perhaps if a Govt had time to put plans in place that won't be removed next cycle, some things may actually get done. Instead of voter cherries dominating the 3 year cycle

That is also true, but it did not answer the question. Would you really want a NZ style "MAGA" running NZ for 10 years ?

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#3203982 7-Mar-2024 08:51

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tdgeek:

sir1963:

Would you want a bad government for 10 years ?

Every Govt is apparently a bad govt. Perhaps if a Govt had time to put plans in place that won't be removed next cycle, some things may actually get done. Instead of voter cherries dominating the 3 year cycle

That is also true, but it did not answer the question. Would you really want a NZ style "MAGA" running NZ for 10 years ?

No. But if the voters voted a Govt in, then that should apply

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#3203985 7-Mar-2024 08:54

I sure wouldn't want this government for 10 years.

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#3203988 7-Mar-2024 08:58

I get that totally, the other side would say the same about Labour

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#3203996 7-Mar-2024 09:18

I'd say that about all sides.

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#3203999 7-Mar-2024 09:23

A shortish parliamentary term wouldn't be an issue if we weren't in the age of partisan politics.

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#3204001 7-Mar-2024 09:27

I suspect that if there were any labour voters whom strategically voted NZF, in an effort to put the cat among the pigeons, they'll be chuckling away right about now......

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#3204002 7-Mar-2024 09:27

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I get that totally, the other side would say the same about Labour

I voted for Labour, and I then voted for National. I have voted NZ first, Social Credit, Greens, over my voting life.

Since MMP I have always slip my vote.

I belong to no party, never will. These people are elected civil servants, nothing more.

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#3204017 7-Mar-2024 10:23

Yeah I voted Liberal before I moved here, and I once voted ACT for the Auckland Supercity. In my defense Rodney Hide hadn't yet manifested the brain worms nor had whatshisname gotten caught using a dead baby's details to get a fake ID.

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