Donald Trump, US President #47, US President #45, convicted felon, twice impeached, four times indicted, liable of rape, convicted for financial fraud, guilty of hiding hush money payments to porn actress in attempt to influence 2016 elections

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#2342808 24-Oct-2019 09:06

The New York Times - Republicans Grind Impeachment Inquiry to Halt as Picture Darkens for Trump

Oct. 23, 2019

WASHINGTON - House Republicans ground the impeachment inquiry to a halt on Wednesday, staging an attention-grabbing protest at the Capitol that sowed chaos and derailed a crucial deposition as they sought to insulate President Trump against mounting evidence of misconduct.

The day after the most damning testimony yet about Mr. Trump’s pressure campaign to enlist Ukraine to smear his political rivals, House Republicans stormed into the secure office suite where impeachment investigators have been conducting private interviews that have painted a damaging picture of the president’s behavior - and refused to leave.

Chanting “Let us in! Let us in!” about two dozen Republican lawmakers - most of whom are not on the committees conducting the inquiry and are therefore not entitled to attend their hearings - pushed past Capitol Police officers to enter the secure rooms of the House Intelligence Committee, which is leading the investigation.

Republicans who are on the committees have been in on the hearings from the start and have heard all the witnesses. ...

Democrats said the timing was no coincidence, and characterized the Republican disruption ... as a desperate attempt to deflect attention from the damaging testimony. ...

And today's new word is ... "desperate" 😐

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#2342905 24-Oct-2019 11:02

Fred99:

kingdragonfly:There's at least one account of Trump snorting Adderall which is illegal.

Kind of anecdotal, even if it seems to fit, thinking also about his unusual sniffy behaviour in the presidential debates.

Regular use of amphetamines may result in weight loss, but I guess there's a ratio of speed:hamberders coming to play - and hamberders seem to have been winning since "The Visionary" was painted:

Trump was obviously feeling cocky at the time.

Trump crowned? No faux King way!

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#2342929 24-Oct-2019 11:21

geekIT:

Trump was obviously feeling ~~cocky~~ mushroom at the time.

He's a fun guy. (Stormy 2018)

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#2342937 24-Oct-2019 11:45

Fred99:

geekIT:

Trump was obviously feeling cocky mushroom at the time.

He's a fun guy. (Stormy 2018)

More likely feeling much room :-)

Actually, assuming the hidden right hand is similar to the depicted length of the left, it might not have been long enough to reach the center of Trump's universe.

Trump crowned? No faux King way!

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#2343017 24-Oct-2019 13:54

Donald Trump’s Quid Pro Quo Is Now a Smoking Gun

Mr. Trump’s own acting envoy, William Taylor, described how the president tried to force Ukraine to advance his political interests.

New York Times, By Jesse Wegman

If Tuesday’s congressional testimony by William Taylor, the acting United States envoy to Ukraine, is to be taken at face value — and no one in the Trump administration has yet denied a word of it — then it is now beyond doubt: President Trump placed his personal political future above the national-security interests of the United States. He did so at the expense of longstanding foreign policy, a critical international alliance and the stability of the global order — and he used hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to do it.

The nation has known the basic outlines of this story for weeks, thanks to the bravery of a C.I.A. whistle-blower and others. But in 15 pages, Mr. Taylor laid out with a stunning degree of detail the extent of Mr. Trump’s effort to extort Ukraine’s new president, Volodymyr Zelensky, to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, a front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, and his son over supposed corruption.

...Mr. Taylor described to lawmakers how, after agreeing to take over as interim head of the United States Embassy in Ukraine last spring, he soon realized something was very wrong. There were “two channels of U.S. policymaking and implementation, one regular and one highly irregular.” The regular one was what it had long been: support, with bipartisan backing in Congress, for Ukraine against Russian aggression from the east. The irregular one was a concerted effort, led by Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer Rudolph Giuliani, to get Ukraine to investigate purported corruption by Mr. Biden and his son, as well as alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 United States election.

...Mr. Taylor’s alarm bells went off when, shortly before one call with Mr. Zelensky, Gordon Sondland, the American ambassador to the European Union, said he didn’t want most of the normal interagency participants to be on the line, and didn’t want anyone monitoring or transcribing the call.

Later, Mr. Taylor said, Mr. Sondland told him that “everything” — the White House visit and the military aid — depended on Mr. Zelensky’s willingness to start a high-profile, public investigation. That sure sounds like a threat to withhold money unless Mr. Zelensky did the president’s bidding — what sticklers might call a quid pro quo. Mr. Trump has denied this, repeating “no quid pro quo” as though it were a magical incantation. After reading Mr. Taylor’s testimony, I don’t think that phrase means what the president thinks it means.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/22/opinion/trump-taylor-ukraine.html

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#2343019 24-Oct-2019 14:03

If Trump Shoots Someone on 5th Ave., Does He Have Immunity? His Lawyer Says Yes

During an appeals court hearing, the judges expressed skepticism about the president’s bid to block a subpoena for his tax returns.

New York Times, By Benjamin Weiser and Azi Paybarah

A federal appeals panel on Wednesday expressed skepticism that President Trump had a right to block state prosecutors in Manhattan from enforcing a subpoena that sought his personal and corporate tax returns for the last eight years.

The judges on a three-member panel in Manhattan peppered a lawyer for Mr. Trump with questions, expressing skepticism about the president’s argument that he was immune from criminal investigation. A lower court judge earlier this month rejected Mr. Trump’s claim, which has not previously been tested in the courts.

Carey R. Dunne, the Manhattan district attorney’s general counsel, cited the president’s famous claim that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue without losing political support.

Mr. Dunne asked what would happen in that extreme scenario? “Would we have to wait for an impeachment proceeding to be initiated?” he said.

Later, Judge Denny Chin posed the Fifth Avenue hypothetical to William S. Consovoy, a lawyer for Mr. Trump, and asked for his view.

“Local authorities couldn’t investigate? They couldn’t do anything about it?” Judge Chin asked, adding: “Nothing could be done? That’s your position?”

“That is correct. That is correct,” Mr. Consovoy said.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/23/nyregion/trump-taxes-vance.html

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#2343023 24-Oct-2019 14:06

Come on. This guy can't be removed from office before we reach 1,000 pages, surely?

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#2343024 24-Oct-2019 14:09

freitasm:

Come on. This guy can't be removed from office before we reach 1,000 pages, surely?

Nah, he's still got a whole load of stupid left in him yet and the wheel of justice turn slowly.

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#2343032 24-Oct-2019 14:17

Sure he's stupid, but he's got more than a touch of Hitler in him as well:

Threatening and demanding absolute and total loyalty from the party, or you're dehumanised, "scum".

He's getting worse, a cornered dirty lying rat who'll turn on his own.

(edit - replaced twitter link with image, in case that remarkable tweet gets deleted)

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#2343049 24-Oct-2019 14:51

Sure you are:

"We’re building a wall in Colorado"

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#2343055 24-Oct-2019 15:03

Got to keep those dangerous pot-heads out!

Plesse igmore amd axxept applogies in adbance fir anu typos

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#2343083 24-Oct-2019 15:39

Fred99: "We’re building a wall in Colorado"

He's obviously speaking about the wall, expressed in spiritual thoughts, we all build symbolizing individual consciousness protecting spiritual substance, which limited error thoughts cannot penetrate.

Or he could just be a dumbsh!t who talk out of his @ss and doesn't realize that Mexico is a 10 hour drive at its closest, about 650 miles away.

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#2343151 24-Oct-2019 16:26

He probably thinks New Mexico is part of Mexico.

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#2343154 24-Oct-2019 16:30

Fred99:

Sure you are:

"We’re building a wall in Colorado"

Maxwell Smart used the "Cone of Silence"

This very stable Genius , not to be out done, used the "Cone of stupid" worn on the skull, some people may know it as dunce cap.

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#2343170 24-Oct-2019 17:13

Problem with having a moron leader inciting lawlessness violence is that when he's legitimately taken out of the game, it's going to take forever to deal with these morons:

Sporting morons who call for "Cival" war:

Major League Baseball is looking into a since-deleted tweet by longtime umpire Rob Drake, commissioner Rob Manfred said Wednesday.

Drake tweeted late Tuesday that he planned to buy an AR-15 rifle "because if you impeach MY PRESIDENT this way, YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER CIVAL WAR!!! #MAGA2020", according to a copy of the tweet obtained by ESPN.

Morons for Jesus calling for patriots to hunt down Democrats:

Morons for Jesus calling for a real coup and martial law:

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