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Topic # 222804 29-Aug-2017 10:43
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Is this the start of things?

 

 

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/28/politics/north-korea-launch-unidentified-projectile/index.html

 

 

 

Edit: Apologies was not sure if this should be in political thread or not?


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  Reply # 1854623 29-Aug-2017 10:45
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They were probably aiming for a totally different trajectory. 





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  Reply # 1854641 29-Aug-2017 11:20
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Its getting scary now!

 

World can't really sit back for much longer and watch. Not sure what they can do....but I am sure the west knows where these missiles are being stored and built.


 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 1854656 29-Aug-2017 11:36
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MikeB4:

 

They were probably aiming for a totally different trajectory. 

 

 

Well, it seemed to have been launched in the direction of California. So I guess they got that part right.

 

There is also a lot of air traffic coming past Cape Erimo Japan, but that does not seem to phase Kim Jong either.


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  Reply # 1854708 29-Aug-2017 12:20
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A Hwasong 12 would get nowhere near California





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  Reply # 1854728 29-Aug-2017 12:38
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Through Japanese airspace or over it? Kind of depends on the trajectory.



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  Reply # 1854736 29-Aug-2017 12:53
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MikeB4:

 

A Hwasong 12 would get nowhere near California

 

 

Maybe not as far as California, but could easily strike other parts of the US.


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  Reply # 1854769 29-Aug-2017 13:40
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No, this is not the start of things. The Japanese government issued a civilian alert, but they apparently made no attempt to shoot it down. Unless an armed missile unequivocally aimed at Japan (or Korea) lands there, I don't expect anyone to kick off a war, because although it's dangerous, it's a lot less dangerous than a war would be. South Korean soldiers are killed by North Koreans every year or two, and they haven't started WWIII over it yet.

 

It's got to come to a head eventually, but not today.





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  Reply # 1854771 29-Aug-2017 13:45
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Wiggum:

 

MikeB4:

 

A Hwasong 12 would get nowhere near California

 

 

Maybe not as far as California, but could easily strike other parts of the US.

 

 

 

 

Has a range up to around 6,000kms just over half distance to San Francisco. They could in theory hit the US base at Guam. Hawaii is beyond the range as well.  





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  Reply # 1854772 29-Aug-2017 13:47
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MikeB4:

 

Wiggum:

 

MikeB4:

 

A Hwasong 12 would get nowhere near California

 

 

Maybe not as far as California, but could easily strike other parts of the US.

 

 

 

 

Has a range up to around 6,000kms just over half distance to San Francisco. They could in theory hit the US base at Guam. Hawaii is beyond the range as well.  

 

 

Or Alaska, but that will probably take out more bears or moose than anything else.


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  Reply # 1854773 29-Aug-2017 13:48
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It was a stupid act during a time of high tension just like the US/ South Korean exercises at this time. The leaders of all countries concerned need to grow up and stop being arm chair generals and lounge heroes.





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  Reply # 1854774 29-Aug-2017 13:50
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Wiggum:

 

 

 

Or Alaska, but that will probably take out more bears or moose than anything else.

 

 

Anchorage is within its upper limit of possible range but guiding it there would be another matter and I doubt they have that ability.





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  Reply # 1854775 29-Aug-2017 13:51
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Wiggum:

 

 

 

Or Alaska, but that will probably take out more bears or moose than anything else.

 

 

 

 

Well, møøse bites kan be pretty nasti.





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  Reply # 1854776 29-Aug-2017 13:51
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MikeB4:

 

It was a stupid act during a time of high tension just like the US/ South Korean exercises at this time. The leaders of all countries concerned need to grow up and stop being arm chair generals and lounge heroes.

 

 

SaltyNZ:

 

It's got to come to a head eventually, but not today.

 

 

Unfortunately the only answer to North Korea is going to require force. Diplomatic hoohaa won't work with them. The bigger question is do we sit around and wait for their missiles to get bigger, or do we try and put a lit on them sooner rather than later.


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  Reply # 1854777 29-Aug-2017 13:54
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Wiggum:

 

MikeB4:

 

It was a stupid act during a time of high tension just like the US/ South Korean exercises at this time. The leaders of all countries concerned need to grow up and stop being arm chair generals and lounge heroes.

 

 

Unfortunately the only answer to North Korea is going to require force. Diplomatic hoohaa won't work with them. The bigger question is do we sit around and wait for their missiles to get bigger, or do we try and put a lit on them sooner rather than later.

 

 

Diplomatic solutions are always the best and there is still considerable scope for this to work if Trump and the US got the hell out of it. They are just as bad at the escalation.





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  Reply # 1854780 29-Aug-2017 13:59
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The US should just say that they will defend SK and Japan if attacked, and step out of all other discussions. This is between North and South Korea, primarily, with China next on the list, then Japan, and Russia.





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