Winston Peters - our 6 Weeks PM

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#237661 12-Jun-2018 08:40

Winston Peters is due to take over from Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern for six weeks while she is on maternity leave

Lets keep this one separate guys..I think things are going to get very interesting and testing over the next few weeks for the coalition.

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#2034129 12-Jun-2018 09:00

I don't like WP's MO and policies much at all - but you have to respect his survival skills.

If National take the opportunity to attack, it might well backfire - given the reason for JA's absence.

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#2034143 12-Jun-2018 09:08

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/104635758/pm-says-winston-peters-would-recuse-himself-from-any-lawsuit-decisions

It's understood Peters is seeking up to $450,000 in damages.

Last year, it emerged Peters' superannuation had been overpaid for several years. After he was made aware, Peters paid back the full $18,000.

This lawsuit is quite extraordinary really as discussed here:

Hosking told Ardern the timing seemed "extraordinary" that just days from taking up reins as acting Prime Minister he would extend his legal action.

"It hasn't affected his ability to do the job to date, it's one extra step in a case that's a private matter for him and a decision for him. But, as I say, this is not new and has been going on for some time."

However, when questioned whether the Prime Minister can have "private matters", especially as the legal action involved the people he was in charge of, Ardern said he could.

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#2034170 12-Jun-2018 09:29

Fred99:

I don't like WP's MO and policies much at all - but you have to respect his survival skills.

If National take the opportunity to attack, it might well backfire - given the reason for JA's absence.

As much as I dislike WP, there certainly is some good coming out of this.

New Zealand First has put the brakes on Labour's plan to repeal the three strikes law - dealing a major blow to Justice Minister Andrew Little.

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/359325/labour-s-three-strikes-repeal-off-the-table

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#2034189 12-Jun-2018 10:06

Duncan Garner wrote a good article here about Winston Peters as acting PM

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/104575530/duncan-garner-stay-calm-everyone-winstons-got-this

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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#2034191 12-Jun-2018 10:08

frednz:

However, when questioned whether the Prime Minister can have "private matters", especially as the legal action involved the people he was in charge of, Ardern said he could.

That is a particularly interesting quote from Ardern, given that she (along with the Labour Party at large) were so vociferous in their argument that this was NOT the case for John Key. (When he made the argument that he could take phone calls (from Cameron Slater if I recall correctly) in a private/personal capacity and that was different from acting in his capacity as Prime Minister.)

There is a very un-parliamentary word for that - it starts with an H.

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#2034321 12-Jun-2018 12:31

https://pro.newsroom.co.nz/articles/3171-three-strikes-and-you-re-out

“It’s always better to wait until Cabinet decisions are made.” said Ardern.

That’s another big dose of “H” if you consider the Oil & Gas ban that she enacted without Cabinet.

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#2034329 12-Jun-2018 12:43

I think he will be extremely well behaved. When in power he generally conducts himself professionally.

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#2034330 12-Jun-2018 12:43

MikeAqua:

I think he will be extremely well behaved. When in power he generally conducts himself professionally.

Such as by suing his own government?

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#2034370 12-Jun-2018 12:57

MikeAqua:

I think he will be extremely well behaved. When in power he generally conducts himself professionally.

On what are you basing that assertion? (If you don't mind my asking)

If I recall correctly, Peters has either directly caused the collapse of, or been fired from every Cabinet that he's ever been a part of. ...though I'll freely admit that I'm not completely up to speed with his early parliamentary career.

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#2034387 12-Jun-2018 13:17

6FIEND:

MikeAqua:

I think he will be extremely well behaved. When in power he generally conducts himself professionally.

On what are you basing that assertion? (If you don't mind my asking)

If I recall correctly, Peters has either directly caused the collapse of, or been fired from every Cabinet that he's ever been a part of. ...though I'll freely admit that I'm not completely up to speed with his early parliamentary career.

I'm sure that includes Helen Clark's cabinet? Can't remember the details, too long ago. Maybe somebody here can recall.

Problem this time is that they really can't fire him, even if they wanted to. If he was fired it would mean the end of the coalition government.

/grabs more popcorn

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#2034389 12-Jun-2018 13:23

6FIEND:

MikeAqua:

I think he will be extremely well behaved. When in power he generally conducts himself professionally.

On what are you basing that assertion? (If you don't mind my asking)

Previous conduct as 'Treasurer' and Minister of foreign affairs.

From memory the only cabinets he has disrupted were Bolger's (once as a National MP, then as coalition partner). Neither brought down the government.

I don't like the guy, but he seems to take his ministerial portfolios seriously.

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#2034429 12-Jun-2018 14:22

MikeAqua:

6FIEND:

MikeAqua:

I think he will be extremely well behaved. When in power he generally conducts himself professionally.

On what are you basing that assertion? (If you don't mind my asking)

Previous conduct as 'Treasurer' and Minister of foreign affairs.

From memory the only cabinets he has disrupted were Bolger's (once as a National MP, then as coalition partner). Neither brought down the government.

I don't like the guy, but he seems to take his ministerial portfolios seriously.

The only person Winston has ever looked out for is himself. He is a liar and a cheat.

IMO he cheated the taxpayer out of $1bn for Jones's stuff and another $1bn for foreign affairs. I know a deal is a deal, but he used his position in coalition talks for himself.

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#2034456 12-Jun-2018 14:40

Winston Peters prepares for his moment on the throne

The term "banana republic" comes to mind.. Only thing is we not a republic... Suddenly President Trump is looking oh so fine ....

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#2034460 12-Jun-2018 14:40

Wiggum:

6FIEND:

If I recall correctly, Peters has either directly caused the collapse of, or been fired from every Cabinet that he's ever been a part of. ...though I'll freely admit that I'm not completely up to speed with his early parliamentary career.

I'm sure that includes Helen Clark's cabinet? Can't remember the details, too long ago. Maybe somebody here can recall.

I think, in Clark's government, the issue was that he was censured by the Privileges Committee over the Owen Glenn donation affair and stood down from his ministerial portfolios.

FWIW, I found a pretty detailed article on his career published on Stuff after the last election.

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#2034518 12-Jun-2018 15:13

Wiggum:

Winston Peters prepares for his moment on the throne

The term "banana republic" comes to mind.. Only thing is we not a republic... Suddenly President Trump is looking oh so fine ....

I don't believe NZ meets the economic or political definitions of a "Banana republic"

Here is a crazy notion, lets give peace a chance.

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