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#265722 7-Feb-2020 09:58

Hi there,

I'm looking to do some stats and just wondering if anyone can lend their internet connection for a moment to do a few international speed tests on a gigabit residential plan.

Server 1: Vodafone, Auckland

Server 2: Windstream, Los Angeles, CA

Server 3: Spectrum, Los Angeles, CA

Server 4: Telstra, Sydney

Server 5: MyRepublic, Singapore (this one is interesting, 2degrees seems to route via the US)

Thanks in advance!

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#2414099 7-Feb-2020 10:33

2degrees:

Hosted by Vodafone New Zealand (Auckland) [1.37 km]: 5.801 ms
Download: 765.66 Mbit/s
Upload: 157.28 Mbit/s

Hosted by Windstream (Los Angeles, CA) [10495.73 km]: 165.363 ms
Download: 27.49 Mbit/s
Upload: 22.08 Mbit/s

Hosted by Spectrum (Los Angeles, CA) [10495.73 km]: 167.886 ms
Download: 54.55 Mbit/s
Upload: 42.02 Mbit/s

Hosted by Telstra (Sydney) [2156.42 km]: 159.203 ms
Download: 370.52 Mbit/s
Upload: 129.75 Mbit/s

Hosted by MyRepublic (Singapore) [8415.67 km]: 310.794 ms
Download: 29.80 Mbit/s
Upload: 12.53 Mbit/s

Traceroute seems to confirm your suspicions:

traceroute to 103.6.148.98 (103.6.148.98), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 0.737 ms 0.458 ms 0.473 ms
2 41.7.69.111.static.snap.net.nz (111.69.7.41) 3.660 ms 6.116 ms 4.562 ms
3 * * *
4 twodegrees-svc063403-ic344202.c.telia.net (62.115.175.227) 128.926 ms 127.077 ms 127.602 ms
5 las-b24-link.telia.net (62.115.175.226) 127.992 ms 128.379 ms 127.599 ms
6 palo-b22-link.telia.net (62.115.119.90) 138.226 ms 138.167 ms
7 sjo-b21-link.telia.net (62.115.116.40) 135.737 ms 136.570 ms 136.213 ms
8 203.118.5.70 (203.118.5.70) 300.998 ms
9 203.116.8.42 (203.116.8.42) 297.042 ms 300.039 ms 296.894 ms
10 103-6-148-98.myrepublic.com.sg (103.6.148.98) 296.998 ms 296.859 ms

Curious to see other results... :)

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#2414144 7-Feb-2020 12:12

From Voyager in Wellington:
https://www.speedtest.net/result/9015758501
https://www.speedtest.net/result/9015767991
https://www.speedtest.net/result/9015774980
https://www.speedtest.net/result/9015777550
https://www.speedtest.net/result/9015782930

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#2414145 7-Feb-2020 12:16

And the same traceroute as above...

traceroute to 103.6.148.9 (103.6.148.9), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 lo-vprn-100.br1.wgn.vygr.net (114.23.17.255) 2.183 ms 2.541 ms 3.776 ms
2 ae-0-448.cr1.wgn.vygr.net (114.23.17.230) 4.325 ms 3.303 ms 3.732 ms
3 xe-1-1-0-0.cr2.mdr.vygr.net (114.23.17.252) 11.400 ms 15.904 ms 14.887 ms
4 ae-1-0.cr1.mdr.vygr.net (114.23.3.242) 44.486 ms 13.685 ms 11.524 ms
5 ae9-143.akbr6.global-gateway.net.nz (122.56.118.157) 13.962 ms 13.079 ms 11.505 ms
6 ae7-2.akbr7.global-gateway.net.nz (122.56.119.53) 11.156 ms ae2-6.tkbr12.global-gateway.net.nz (122.56.127.17) 11.884 ms 10.453 ms
7 ae10-10.tkbr12.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.232.29) 12.466 ms xe0-0-1.sebr3.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.232.14) 34.824 ms ae10-10.tkbr12.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.232.29) 12.327 ms
8 xe0-1-0-10.hmbr1.global-gateway.net.nz (210.55.202.114) 170.154 ms 167.585 ms 168.280 ms
9 ae0-10.hmbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (210.55.202.90) 167.536 ms 169.517 ms 182.323 ms
10 ae0-10.hmbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (210.55.202.90) 168.069 ms 4657.hkg.equinix.com (36.255.56.54) 170.426 ms ae0-10.hmbr2.global-gateway.net.nz (210.55.202.90) 166.080 ms
11 203.118.5.70 (203.118.5.70) 182.355 ms 173.088 ms 4657.hkg.equinix.com (36.255.56.54) 156.225 ms
12 103-6-148-9.myrepublic.com.sg (103.6.148.9) 157.256 ms 203.118.5.70 (203.118.5.70) 159.704 ms 175.590 ms

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#2414211 7-Feb-2020 13:23

Meanwhile in the Stuff Fibre slum:

Server: Vodafone New Zealand - Auckland (id = 4953)
Latency: 11.08 ms (0.19 ms jitter)
Download: 192.56 Mbps (data used: 214.2 MB)
Upload: 529.12 Mbps (data used: 637.2 MB)

Server: Windstream - Los Angeles, CA (id = 18401)
Latency: 136.12 ms (0.35 ms jitter)
Download: 264.05 Mbps (data used: 387.7 MB)
Upload: 80.27 Mbps (data used: 140.8 MB)

Server: Spectrum - Los Angeles, CA (id = 16974)
Latency: 140.10 ms (0.12 ms jitter)
Download: 344.07 Mbps (data used: 492.9 MB)
Upload: 132.90 Mbps (data used: 152.3 MB)

Server: Telstra - Sydney (id = 2629)
Latency: 301.43 ms (0.47 ms jitter)
Download: 336.19 Mbps (data used: 426.9 MB)
Upload: 47.43 Mbps (data used: 80.3 MB)

Server: MyRepublic - Singapore (id = 5935)
Latency: 225.52 ms (0.12 ms jitter)
Download: 269.84 Mbps (data used: 363.5 MB)
Upload: 67.34 Mbps (data used: 117.0 MB)

by comparison

Server: Stuff Fibre - Auckland (id = 18474)
Latency: 11.84 ms (0.16 ms jitter)
Download: 887.02 Mbps (data used: 1.6 GB)
Upload: 354.02 Mbps (data used: 210.0 MB)

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#2414212 7-Feb-2020 13:26

300ms to SYD sounds weird, everything else looks pretty good... 🤤

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#2414219 7-Feb-2020 13:40

aseni:
300ms to SYD sounds weird, everything else looks pretty good... 🤤

I think there's some routing issues going on recently, I've noticed Overwatch servers have been 200MS to Sydney for me.

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#2414224 7-Feb-2020 13:49

ssamjh:

I think there's some routing issues going on recently, I've noticed Overwatch servers have been 200MS to Sydney for me.

There was a planned maintenance on one of the fibres between NZ and AU a couple of days ago, but should be back to normal by now...

E.g:

PING 99.86.212.115 (99.86.212.115): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 99.86.212.115: icmp_seq=0 ttl=244 time=26.060 ms
64 bytes from 99.86.212.115: icmp_seq=1 ttl=244 time=26.943 ms
64 bytes from 99.86.212.115: icmp_seq=2 ttl=244 time=25.829 ms
64 bytes from 99.86.212.115: icmp_seq=3 ttl=244 time=25.483 ms
64 bytes from 99.86.212.115: icmp_seq=4 ttl=244 time=26.131 ms

--- 99.86.212.115 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 25.483/26.089/26.943/0.483 ms

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#2414226 7-Feb-2020 13:53

its dead at work today, this gave me something to do. NB our UFB is 200/200 so that will be the top speed

https://www.speedtest.net/result/9015965706

https://www.speedtest.net/result/9015969263

https://www.speedtest.net/result/9015971062

https://www.speedtest.net/result/9015973206

https://www.speedtest.net/result/9015975288

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#2414230 7-Feb-2020 14:08

2degrees 900/400 residential plan as follows:

Server: Vodafone New Zealand - Auckland (id = 4953)
ISP: 2degrees Broadband
Latency: 4.28 ms (0.11 ms jitter)
Download: 126.83 Mbps (data used: 172.5 MB)
Upload: 143.33 Mbps (data used: 125.3 MB)

Server: Windstream - Los Angeles, CA (id = 18401)
ISP: 2degrees Broadband
Latency: 158.39 ms (0.07 ms jitter)
Download: 311.82 Mbps (data used: 468.2 MB)
Upload: 99.07 Mbps (data used: 118.2 MB)

Server: Spectrum - Los Angeles, CA (id = 16974)
ISP: 2degrees Broadband
Latency: 160.23 ms (0.34 ms jitter)
Download: 306.61 Mbps (data used: 466.5 MB)
Upload: 101.81 Mbps (data used: 126.5 MB)

Server: Telstra - Sydney (id = 2629)
ISP: 2degrees Broadband
Latency: 149.54 ms (2.25 ms jitter)
Download: 147.64 Mbps (data used: 246.6 MB)
Upload: 117.06 Mbps (data used: 195.2 MB)

Server: MyRepublic - Singapore (id = 5935)
ISP: 2degrees Broadband
Latency: 319.11 ms (1.10 ms jitter)
Download: 192.77 Mbps (data used: 253.4 MB)
Upload: 60.84 Mbps (data used: 102.8 MB)

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#2414623 8-Feb-2020 12:54

Interesting topic. These two ISPs seem to be the "for geeks, by geeks" recommendations around here.

There are a number of variables that could influence the results. These are the ones I'm in control of:
The test machine is running Windows 10. Browser is Chrome. Connection is wired (Intel i219 NIC). TCP congestion control is CUBIC (the default) - a Linux machine using BBR would probably give higher upload rates for the longer links.
The router is OpenWRT x86 (on an Intel i3-7100U with i211 NICs). MTU for the PPP session is 1508 bytes. CAKE rate limits are set to 920,000 kbit/s down and 550,000 kbit/s up. Setting the upload limit seems to consistently get me a higher upload rate - not sure why exactly, but it might be due to the way that limiter "paces" the packets onto the link. I'm using a download limit to cap latency to nearest hop at 5 ms under load, and setting "nat dual-dsthost ingress" does a great job of sharing the link fairly between hosts.
Connection is 2degrees gigabit home/residential in Wellington. Don't know if it makes a difference, but I pay for a static IP.

Results:
Vodafone, Auckland: 250.75 Mbit/s down, 516.56 Mbit/s up, 14 ms
Windstream, Los Angeles, CA: 535.61 Mbit/s down, 100.97 Mbit/s up, 116 ms
Spectrum, Los Angeles, CA: 483.61 Mbit/s down, 49.49 Mbit/s up, 168 ms
Telstra, Sydney: 862.43 Mbit/s down, 500.97 Mbit/s up, 160 ms
MyRepublic, Singapore: 277.32 Mbit/s down, 69.90 Mbit/s up, 327 ms

And a couple of bonus results, going via WIX and auckland.megaport.com (APE?):
Xtreme Networks, Wellington: 868.60 Mbit/s down, 520.10 Mbit/s up, 2 ms
Voyager Internet, Auckland: 863.92 Mbit/s down, 518.84 Mbit/s up, 12 ms

@amanzi - is your connection 200/20? Anyone on Voyager with a gigabit link?

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#2414651 8-Feb-2020 15:58

matt1553:

@amanzi - is your connection 200/20? Anyone on Voyager with a gigabit link?

Yep, should have mentioned that.

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#2414654 8-Feb-2020 16:22

@amanzi:

Yep, should have mentioned that.

second line of the first post "speed tests on a gigabit residential plan."

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#2414675 8-Feb-2020 18:00

Just as another data-point, here are four tests to NFOrce Entertainment BV in Amsterdam. All within a few of minutes of each other:

231.69 Mbit/s down, 49.41 Mbit/s up, 273 ms
93.64 Mbit/s down, 76.43 Mbit/s up, 273 ms
21.89 Mbit/s down, 40.50 Mbit/s up, 273 ms
168.30 Mbit/s down, 64.54 Mbit/s up, 273 ms

The large variability in these results probably isn't due to links under heavy load. As connections get longer, minor packet losses (which are normal) start to make a big difference in how much throughput any single connection can actually achieve. Doubly so when speedtest.net barely runs long enough for TCP connections this long to get out of slow start.

The server for those four tests is mirror.nforce.com, and it hosts some speed test files: https://mirror.nforce.com/pub/speedtests/
Using a download manager and 30 connections I get a sustained speed of around 320 Mbit/s. I've got a dedicated server in Amsterdam with Online.net. Their network probably isn't as good as NFOrce's, but I'll always get at least 240 MBit/s using 30 connections.