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Topic # 175452 30-Jun-2015 12:51
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I recently started converting my garage into a home theatre and was planning on spending a nice amount on the surround sound, however in the weekend my main TV died so the budget for the home theatre now has to be split between the two and I think I'm more inclined to spend the majority on the TV. The budget was $2000 for the home theatre but I have $1000 set aside for emergencies as well.

Right now and finishing today Noel Leeming has a half price Pioneer system which I'm thinking might do until I can afford to upgrade, though I am sceptical with just how cheap it is.

https://www.noelleeming.co.nz/shop/home-entertainment/home-audio/home-theatre-systems/pioneer-htp072-5-1-home-theatre-package-with-hd-audio/prod174775.html

With the TV I should mention that I had previously talked to Sony about some sort of compensation as it was an 8 year old SXRD that had developed the cursed yellow tinge which is a known defect with these models to which they have offered me 20% off any TV off their website which I thought was better than a kick in the teeth. (The yellow tinge is unrelated to the TV dying however)

Now with the TV I'm torn, I can get a really nice full HD TV that is quite big or I can get a 4K TV that is quite a fair bit smaller. I'm aware that currently there's practically no 4K content but I don't want to have to buy another TV for as long as I can.

My internet is practically down at the moment so all my research is being done on my phone which I must say is becoming a PITA! Any help would be appreciated.

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  Reply # 1334093 30-Jun-2015 13:05
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Unless you're really into effects heavy titles, I'd recommend getting a better stereo or 2.1 setup rather than surround. You can upgrade by addition then rather than spending more by going too cheap to start with.



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  Reply # 1334094 30-Jun-2015 13:12
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Ok, that's interesting. Could you point me in the right direction?

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1334101 30-Jun-2015 13:24
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Saying that, at the price of the deal you listed, getting a couple of decent speakers as well should be possible with the remainder of your budget, especially if second-hand.



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  Reply # 1334104 30-Jun-2015 13:30
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Yeah I think I'm going to have to get that deal. It seems like a fair bit of bang for its buck and it'll probably be fine until I can afford to upgrade.

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  Reply # 1334145 30-Jun-2015 14:24
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I'd spend the money on the panel... buy once, buy right.
While that amp will pass through 4K resolution, it won't handle HDCP 2.2, meaning if your new TV has an expanded colour gumut, you won't be taking advantage of it when it comes to watching UHD Blu-ray discs.
In regards to the satellite speakers sounding 'rich'... they don't. They're the smallest of small speakers at the bottom of Pioneer's range.



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  Reply # 1334159 30-Jun-2015 14:36
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By panel you mean TV right? Also I should mention that these things will not be put together. The TV is for the lounge and the HT is for the garage to be paired with my recently purchased projector. But now you have me worried as my HT in the lounge is reasonably old, I didn't even consider that the receiver could affect the picture but I guess it makes sense.



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  Reply # 1334199 30-Jun-2015 15:29
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Wow I've learnt a lot just from googling hdcp 2.2 and I'm almost wondering if it is still too early to invest in a 4K TV. Nothing else I own seems to be compatible with it not even my PS4. Though it's not a problem for the projector fortunately.

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  Reply # 1334232 30-Jun-2015 15:45
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TV's and the 2015 receivers look to finally be on the right path for expanded colour gamuts and high frame rates etc.
We'll see it all come out in the wash once the first UHD Blu-ray titles are released for the new UHD players in late 2015 though...



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  Reply # 1334319 30-Jun-2015 16:52
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Correct me if I'm wrong but as I understood it once the UHD blu rays start coming out of your device is not hdcp 2.2 compliant they will just refuse to play. Pretty bloody unfair to the early adopters if you ask me.

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  Reply # 1334466 30-Jun-2015 21:22
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TV and Receiver tech advances quickly, so difficult to be on the latest tech curve if you have a limited budget.
Good speakers will be good speakers for a long time, if you have to pick where to invest that's where I suggest the focus should be.

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  Reply # 1334484 30-Jun-2015 21:37
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I'd probably buy a decent TV and a tuner with a set of small/low quality speakers that is going to do the job well when you buy better speakers but that's just me.

TV wise I would go 4k ASAP but looking at whats on offer now I have yet to understand how with any of the options they expect you to get the 4k content to the TV, Even with PC screens Display Port is the only realistic option.




Perpetually undecided.

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  Reply # 1334487 30-Jun-2015 21:43
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I'm like you in that I'm looking to upgrade my TV. 
I was also captivated by 4k but looking at everything agree it is a year (or 2) too early to invest in 4k.
If you want HDR, HDCP2.2 and Netfix 4k you need to drop $8000 on a Samsung one. (that will never fly in this house)
Oh I want 65 inch plus as well (did I mention that)

And sadly I'm not one to upgrade every year. More like 6-7 years
So I need to decide if I wait (hard call) or go 1080p (but I like shiney)

Not happy Jan - finally get permission to spend and the timing is wrong. But if I don't spend soon the permission will disappear when a new bill comes along.

Anyway the point of this post is you IMHO you are right - 4K is not ready for a reasonable price






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  Reply # 1334515 30-Jun-2015 22:50
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I bought the Pioneer system that was in the link in my original post post. It'll do the job for the meantime while I build the funds back up.

Personally I'm thinking I might go 4K and sacrifice on size. I just watched Kick-Ass 2 on a 23 inch and it wasn't that bad, apart from the text bubbles that I couldn't read it didn't take too long for me to fidget it was such a small screen.

Android TV sounds interesting as well. I saw a demo of it today when buying the home theatre.

But yeah still a tad worried that things could change as the blu rays are yet to be released. But like you I'd rather not have to buy another TV in one to two years.

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  Reply # 1334720 1-Jul-2015 10:06
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KrazyKid: I'm like you in that I'm looking to upgrade my TV. 
I was also captivated by 4k but looking at everything agree it is a year (or 2) too early to invest in 4k.
If you want HDR, HDCP2.2 and Netfix 4k you need to drop $8000 on a Samsung one. (that will never fly in this house)
Oh I want 65 inch plus as well (did I mention that)

And sadly I'm not one to upgrade every year. More like 6-7 years
So I need to decide if I wait (hard call) or go 1080p (but I like shiney)

Not happy Jan - finally get permission to spend and the timing is wrong. But if I don't spend soon the permission will disappear when a new bill comes along.

Anyway the point of this post is you IMHO you are right - 4K is not ready for a reasonable price





Whut? Buy a Sony 930C for $3k less and get all of that plus better blacks and motion

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  Reply # 1334723 1-Jul-2015 10:09
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Hobchild: I bought the Pioneer system that was in the link in my original post post. It'll do the job for the meantime while I build the funds back up.

Personally I'm thinking I might go 4K and sacrifice on size. I just watched Kick-Ass 2 on a 23 inch and it wasn't that bad, apart from the text bubbles that I couldn't read it didn't take too long for me to fidget it was such a small screen.

Android TV sounds interesting as well. I saw a demo of it today when buying the home theatre.

But yeah still a tad worried that things could change as the blu rays are yet to be released. But like you I'd rather not have to buy another TV in one to two years.


I just purchased a 65" Sony 930C. Brilliant TV. HRD, HDCP 2.2. Plus all the rest of it.

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