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Topic # 181323 10-Oct-2015 21:25
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Hi folks

I am currently looking at alternatives to our subscription model, as discussed in another thread. We currently offer a subscription account level, where you can elect to have no ads shown while logged in on Geekzone.

I am interested in testing a new paid service (currently offered for free) that allows users to visit multiple sites and have these sites not show ads - even if not logged in. Publishers get paid based on number of page views. The service is called webpass.

To make it clear:

 

  • Webpass is not an adblocking service
  • Webpass currently works on Chrome and Firefox desktop only
  • Webpass is being designed to be a single subscription service that publishers will query when a page request comes in with special headers populated by its browser add-on
  • Webpass publishers will not show ads to visitors that come with the correct headers (meaning running a browser with the webpass add-on and logged in to their webpass account)
  • Webpass browser add-on needs you to be logged in
  • Webpass is currently free, meaning if you join the trial you get Geekzone with no ads for free
Another interesting thing for users: like the Geekzone subscription, once we detect a visitor with webpass the pages are sent from our servers without any ad script. This means the pages are smaller and should load even faster - faster than adblocked pages in fact, if not the same.

The clear advantage for users is that a single subscription can be used in multiple sites, instead of having to worry about paying multiple subscriptions in different sites - ones that you use more others you use less. Publishers will get paid by webpass based on visits, page views, etc.

I personally think it's a great idea. The service is currently being tested so you might not find all the sites you visit there, but it's worth testing it.

I find this particularly good because of some people who says "I'd pay for Geekzone with no ads" and yet with offer this option but the uptake is low. Perhaps if people had an option for a subscription for multiple sites then it would be more valuable.

I have removed the limit of 15 people. Anyone can join now.

Requirements:

 

  • Must be using Chrome or Firefox on desktop as the service requires an add-on
  • Must create a (for now) free account with this service and login through the add-on
  • Must post feedback here (or via PM) about page load times
  • If you are a Geekzone subscriber then should go to your profile and select "Browse Geekzone with ads" since we should be able to automatically identify you're using the new service and remove ads anyway
The test will last a few weeks so we can measure satisfaction, performance, etc.

To be clear if we adopt this new service we plan to keep both the Geekzone subscription and the new service.

Interested? Click here to register for webpass and post below when you join.






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  Reply # 1403688 11-Oct-2015 00:37
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Am seeing the occasional ad come through using this service:

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However assuming you're not using mobile devices or a browser without this addon it seems to be working essentially as fast as having a subscription. 




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  Reply # 1403689 11-Oct-2015 02:38
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Early test results : ). Chrome for Android does not support extensions.

https://developer.chrome.com/multidevice/faq

i did not know this. I keep a basic browsing experience on mobile so I can see the positives of that for Google as well. Maybe Google is taking a leaf out of the Apple/flash book there and prioritising the Android user experience.

So for Android, Firefox is required for the benefits.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1403760 11-Oct-2015 10:42
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I am finding the discussions on the main homescreen no-longer show new discussions when I know they're in-fact new.

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  Reply # 1403763 11-Oct-2015 11:06
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This is unrelated as there are no changes to those bits of the site.




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  Reply # 1403765 11-Oct-2015 11:12
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Interested pm please or you have my details



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  Reply # 1404571 12-Oct-2015 18:36
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michaelmurfy: Am seeing the occasional ad come through using this service:

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However assuming you're not using mobile devices or a browser without this addon it seems to be working essentially as fast as having a subscription. 


Yes, that was happening in the forums where we had exclusive ads (only one ad per page, 100% for a single company). This was the Online Streaming forum. Fixed now.







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  Reply # 1404572 12-Oct-2015 18:37
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Folks, notice that I have added some more to the OP describing the service and a link for anyone to register now.







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  Reply # 1404697 12-Oct-2015 22:13
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Does it need to be the same email address as for geekzone or is it smarter and detects on site logon etc?

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  Reply # 1404700 12-Oct-2015 22:33
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Do you know if there/will there be any way to see the partner websites? Looks like a good idea but it's hard to assess without knowing where the $5-$10 (US? NZ?) per month could go.

Though I realise this is a query for webpass, not Geekzone.

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  Reply # 1404702 12-Oct-2015 22:38
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Well I can tell you it is rather good as far as subscription technologies go. Mauricio has done an excellent job at implementing it.




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  Reply # 1404711 12-Oct-2015 23:14
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gzt: Does it need to be the same email address as for geekzone or is it smarter and detects on site logon etc?


It can be any address. You log into the browser add-on and it will send a special header with each request. Our server uses that header to validate the subscription. This also means you can visit Geekzone and see no ads even if you aren't logged into our forums.

mdf: Do you know if there/will there be any way to see the partner websites? Looks like a good idea but it's hard to assess without knowing where the $5-$10 (US? NZ?) per month could go. Though I realise this is a query for webpass, not Geekzone.


That's right. But currently they are working through it - looking through the registrations and where traffic is going to them contact those publishers.

michaelmurfy: Well I can tell you it is rather good as far as subscription technologies go. Mauricio has done an excellent job at implementing it.


Thanks... I think it's an interesting idea, it complements our own subscription and other initiatives without pushing ads...






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  Reply # 1404728 13-Oct-2015 02:27
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have notified the powers that be of mobile nations ... let's see if they buy into it...

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  Reply # 1404734 13-Oct-2015 06:34
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So you still get tracked by the advertisers (they are sent your headers and decide not to push ads), and you're now personally identified via the headers I assume.

 

 

They just make their money from the subs and then by knowing more about you and providing you ads on "non supported" sites?




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  Reply # 1404738 13-Oct-2015 06:54
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page load times seem fast, but theyve always seemed fast :)

If you subscribe via webpass, would you get the nice "Subscriber" link under your name? I assume no?



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  Reply # 1404739 13-Oct-2015 07:05
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mentalinc: So you still get tracked by the advertisers (they are sent your headers and decide not to push ads), and you're now personally identified via the headers I assume.

They just make their money from the subs and then by knowing more about you and providing you ads on "non supported" sites?


No.

Advertisers are never involved. Webpass tells me you are a subscriber, we remove the ad codes before sending page out.

Read description again.




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