Linux: @DjShadow Was it worth changing to eSIM?

For me yes as I can put my work phone sim in my iPhone now

boosacnoodle:

Is it available for corporate accounts?

Trying to get eSIM working on iPhone

Talking to vodafone CS while logged into my account + staring at 2 iPhones, both of which say:

'Scan QR code / Position the QR code from your service provider in the frame'.

Likely a lazy / stupid question, but the CS staffer is telling me 'one must physically visit a store' ?

Surely, in these times of Global Warming, Year 2022, this isn't how to initiate electronic comm.'s?

How does one, get this 'QR code' provided them, exactly ?

Can the details be entered manually ?

They need to ID you against the mobile number for security reasons! Mobile number hijacking

Cheers Linux, explains that - bit silly, surely it's hijackable at this stage anyway ?

Q: will I be able to leave the nano-SIM in the 'old' phone and still use it out & about to make calls etc and additionally also while out and about make calls on the 'new' phone which won't have a physical SIM in it (hopefully via eSIM' ?

ICCID + MEID + IMEI + IMEI2 + SEID + EID numbers etc are all at hand is it possible to maybe have someone at voda can send me the..

SM + DP + Address

Activation Code

harlansmart:

 

Cheers Linux, explains that - bit silly, surely it's hijackable at this stage anyway ?

 

Q: will I be able to leave the nano-SIM in the 'old' phone and still use it out & about to make calls etc and additionally also while out and about make calls on the 'new' phone which won't have a physical SIM in it (hopefully via eSIM' ?

 

@harlansmart The old Nano SIM with your mobile number on it will be of no use

Cheers Linux,

Funny how voda CS after an hour's call can't tell me stuff like this...

So, does that mean only 1 phone can make/receive calls at one time via the 1 cell number then ?

1 SIM 1 number same rule for eSIM (You can have multiple eSIM's on a handset up to 5) 

Linux:

1 SIM 1 number same rule for eSIM (You can have multiple eSIM's on a handset up to 5) 

Right - so 'eSIM' is no use to me, waste of time since am only intending to use a single voda number..

Unfortunate both phones can ring using Wi-Fi but only one can ring when off Wi-Fi and using voda's cellular network.

So, may as well simply take the cases off the phones and swap the nano-SIM into 14 PM 

Bit of a let down lol

eSIM is just that - an electronic SIM card. It operates more or less exactly the same as a physical SIM card.

Wearables operate completely differently but coincidentally typically happen to offer eSIM.

But not 'two phones'... how does it now your watch isn't a phone ?

hairy1:

Linux:

 

1 SIM 1 number same rule for eSIM (You can have multiple eSIM's on a handset up to 5) 

 

Except for the one number plan from Spark which enables the same number on a wearable

There's two main benefits of eSIM on a phone but if you don't need either of these then there isn't any difference from continuing to use physical SiM.

1. Makes your iPhone dual-SIM (dual active), i.e. catches up to where Android has been for ages

• so you can have two different phone numbers active simultaneously (1 x eSIM and 1 x physical SiM, or 2 x eSiM on iPhone 14), e.g. 1 for personal and 1 for business, or want coverage from 2 different mobile networks
• when travelling you can pick up a local SiM card at airport (mostly for data) and keep your NZ SIM plan active on eSIM.

2. If you lose your phone overseas or if you can't get into a store then as long as you have an eSIM phone with you, you can get sent the QR code via email or messaging and scan it and get connected immediately - as long as connected to internet somehow.

This second use case often involves a SIM swap so will require some authorisation of the user.

To date in NZ all 3 mobile networks have launched eSIM with QR code but the much better way is to manage the onboarding digitally end to end via a mobile app, it's just quite a lot more work to achieve this especially if users have to be correctly identified and authorised e.g. doing a SiM swap or signing up as a new Post Pay customer.  

The other advantage is that if your device gets stolen with a physical SIM then the thief could remove the SIM, put it in another handset, and then incur charges before you've had the chance to cancel the SIM. This isn't a problem with an eSIM because they can't physically remove the SIM and they can't get past the passcode, Face ID or Touch ID on your phone.

Back to the OP's situation, I'm really struggling to see the use case for having the same number on two handsets. Wearables are different because athletes train without their phone and benefit from being able to use their Apple Watch to call for help in an emergency.