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Topic # 165762 19-Feb-2015 20:55
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Not only has all the traffic from the world's biggest streaming site for gamers (twitch.tv) been routed through China for the past 2-3 months so that Vodafone's customers get oodles of pauses in video streams with even 1.3Mbps bitrates, tonight half the populated Oceania Battlefield 4 servers are unplayable because traffic is being routed through China, again...

Thanks so much Vodafone...   When will your bloody UFB service be functional again?


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  Reply # 1242582 19-Feb-2015 20:57
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why is it being routed via china? you got any proof to this. twitch stuff i believe for our part of the world comes from singapore.




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  Reply # 1242592 19-Feb-2015 21:01
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Trace route and what are local speeds like?

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1242597 19-Feb-2015 21:06
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Unlikely to be going near China... maybe Singapore.  Got traceroute?



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  Reply # 1242604 19-Feb-2015 21:18
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It goes through China...

Tracing route to twitch.tv [192.16.71.181]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 12 ms 12 ms 10 ms 218.101.61.101
4 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms ie2-g-0-0-0.telstraclear.net [203.98.50.2]
5 25 ms 25 ms 32 ms ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net [203.98.50.251]
6 26 ms 27 ms 25 ms 134.159.174.41
7 152 ms 154 ms 151 ms 202.84.223.85
8 181 ms 183 ms 182 ms 202.84.140.242
9 181 ms 189 ms 181 ms 202.84.251.98
10 181 ms 180 ms 179 ms l3-peer.eqnx03.pr.telstraglobal.net [134.159.61.106]
11 182 ms 194 ms 182 ms ae-1-6.bar2.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net [4.69.140.153]
12 193 ms 191 ms 201 ms ae-1-6.bar2.SanFrancisco1.Level3.net [4.69.140.153]
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

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  Reply # 1242606 19-Feb-2015 21:19
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Confused where which hop/s?



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  Reply # 1242608 19-Feb-2015 21:22
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johnr: Confused where which hop/s?


202.84.223.85
202.84.140.242
202.84.251.98

Google for "IP locator".


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  Reply # 1242612 19-Feb-2015 21:24
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FierceGuppy:
johnr: Confused where which hop/s?


202.84.223.85
202.84.140.242
202.84.251.98

Google for "IP locator".



That is not China and what about local speed?

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  Reply # 1242623 19-Feb-2015 21:30
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FierceGuppy:
johnr: Confused where which hop/s?


202.84.223.85
202.84.140.242
202.84.251.98

Google for "IP locator".



That's an amusing game, and you get a wide variety of answers.

Now can you please tell me how you think physically (as in where the cables run) you can be in China one hop out from the TCL network?  Have you ever seen a map of the world?



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  Reply # 1242625 19-Feb-2015 21:33
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johnr:
FierceGuppy:
johnr: Confused where which hop/s?


202.84.223.85
202.84.140.242
202.84.251.98

Google for "IP locator".



That is not China



OK, then you tell me which country Hong Kong is in.

hk

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  Reply # 1242628 19-Feb-2015 21:36
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Hong Kong is in Hong Kong and China is it's own country, I have visited both

Hong Kong use to be under British rule but I am sure then it was not in Britain and still in the same location as it is now

So the traffic is going via Hong Kong

John

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  Reply # 1242632 19-Feb-2015 21:40
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Glassboy:
FierceGuppy:
johnr: Confused where which hop/s?


202.84.223.85
202.84.140.242
202.84.251.98

Google for "IP locator".



That's an amusing game, and you get a wide variety of answers.

Now can you please tell me how you think physically (as in where the cables run) you can be in China one hop out from the TCL network?  Have you ever seen a map of the world?


One IP hop... who knows how many MPLS hops.

But at any rate, US via HK? Something isn't quite right there.

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  Reply # 1242634 19-Feb-2015 21:40
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freitasm: Hong Kong. Same distance.



Some say Hong Kong, some say Indonesia.  I suspect it's actually Hawaii, as there's not really enough hops to bounce around through Asia before hitting the US.  There is just enough to be taking a fairly torturous route across the Southern Pacific Cable tho. 

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  Reply # 1242635 19-Feb-2015 21:41
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ubergeeknz:
Glassboy:
FierceGuppy:
johnr: Confused where which hop/s?


202.84.223.85
202.84.140.242
202.84.251.98

Google for "IP locator".



That's an amusing game, and you get a wide variety of answers.

Now can you please tell me how you think physically (as in where the cables run) you can be in China one hop out from the TCL network?  Have you ever seen a map of the world?


One IP hop... who knows how many MPLS hops.

But at any rate, US via HK? Something isn't quite right there.


Have to agree something does not seem right but internet traffic does not always take the most direct path due to a number of reasons



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  Reply # 1242636 19-Feb-2015 21:43
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johnr:
FierceGuppy:
johnr: Confused where which hop/s?


202.84.223.85
202.84.140.242
202.84.251.98

Google for "IP locator".



That is not China and what about local speed?


Local speed is usually good.  Currently ~86Mbps, but I've had over 100Mbps yet the twitch.tv streams as low as 1.3Mbps are still inundated with pauses.  People on the BigPipe service in Auckland can watch multiple twitch.tv video streams broadcasting at Source bitrates (4-6Mbps) without any pausing. 

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