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#250942 1-Jun-2019 20:05
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Just something I randomly noticed, appears FibreX is now the "Ultrafast HFC Network"

 

 

 


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  #2249711 1-Jun-2019 20:21
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About dam time. Surely no one at Vodafone marketing can actually say this was done in good faith. the whole point of the FibreX brand was to confuse the consumer. Stunk of Teresa Gattung ten years ago at Spark.

 

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  #2249737 1-Jun-2019 21:30
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TBH I never cared about the naming, only the service grade and support. I don't think HFC has ever been as bad as people think, but vodafone and telstraclears product support and investment approach has left a LOT to be desired - listening on congestion, fault repairs, proactive maintenance and so on. 

 

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  #2249746 1-Jun-2019 22:06
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antoniosk:

 

... I don't think HFC has ever been as bad as people think, but vodafone and telstraclears product support and investment approach has left a LOT to be desired - listening on congestion, fault repairs, proactive maintenance and so on. ...

 

 

I agree with you about poor Telstra/Vodafone product support and investment.

 

I disagree with your claim that HFC has never been as bad as people thinkOh yes it was, and for a long time.  😕

 

From bitter personal experience as a cable user (and TrueNet tester) in Island Bay for the past 7 years, I can confirm that our HFC service was almost unusable from April 2015 to September 2016, when it was upgraded.

 

(Remember the old Krapi Cable Congestion thread that ran to 234 pages?)

 

If Vodafone have dropped the "FibreX" branding misnomer, that's great news - I know several smart-but-not-technical people who were taken in by it.





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  #2249777 1-Jun-2019 22:54
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I remember they were being investigated by the Commerce Commission for the name (and apparently for not advertising which other broadband options were available at an address). Articles:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/108647958/vodafone-admits-misleading-customers-over-broadband-options
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12161252

I assume they must have had the hearing on this and lost?

Edit: Here's the Geekzone thread on the charges https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=233359.




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  #2249805 2-Jun-2019 09:02
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About time, although does that mean the Commerce Commission case just comes to an end (or is closed)?


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  #2249825 2-Jun-2019 09:55
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quickymart:

About time, although does that mean the Commerce Commission case just comes to an end (or is closed)?



The Herald article above says the hearing was scheduled for 27 Feb 2019 in the Auckland District Court, but was adjourned until 3 April.

The Commerce Commission Case Register hasn't been updated recently, and shows the case as open.

I can't see any reported judgment on the District Court website, but they are not always reported.

My guess is that they either had the hearing and Vodafone lost (but it hasn't been reported yet), or it was adjourned again, and the parties reached some sort of settlement in the meantime.

I don't think the Commerce Commission would drop the charges just because Vodafone now stopped using the name FibreX, after having used it for a couple of years. It would also be strange for Vodafone to change the name without the matter being settled, because it would give the impression that they agreed that were wrong (i.e. guilty of the charges). But, stranger things have happened.

Anyway, we shall no doubt see in the fullness of time.




 
 
 

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  #2250015 2-Jun-2019 16:36
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When I challenged Jason Paris on here around VF's legal compliance practices, he indicated that VF was serious about doing better. I'd be stunned if there has been a decision against VF on the ComCom prosecution without the former making a press release/there being some press coverage. So this is either a case of VF reaching a settlement with the ComCom or it continuing to deny a breach of the FTA but nonetheless at least implicitly acknowledging that continuing to push to the edge of the FTA (at a minimum) is not the correct practice for a corporation that wishes to be taken seriously. Whatever the scenario, the fact that there is a noticeable change of attitude is a good thing. 


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  #2250029 2-Jun-2019 17:04
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antoniosk:

 

... I don't think HFC has ever been as bad as people think, but vodafone and telstraclears product support and investment approach has left a LOT to be desired - listening on congestion, fault repairs, proactive maintenance and so on. ...

 

 

I agree with you about poor Telstra/Vodafone product support and investment.

 

I disagree with your claim that HFC has never been as bad as people thinkOh yes it was, and for a long time.  😕

 

From bitter personal experience as a cable user (and TrueNet tester) in Island Bay for the past 7 years, I can confirm that our HFC service was almost unusable from April 2015 to September 2016, when it was upgraded.

 

(Remember the old Krapi Cable Congestion thread that ran to 234 pages?)

 

If Vodafone have dropped the "FibreX" branding misnomer, that's great news - I know several smart-but-not-technical people who were taken in by it.

 

 

I agree the state of Island Bay was an absolute abomination and a real indictment of vodatelstrasaturnchelloclearwhatever's lack of care of customers, but equally I dont believe the entire network was in a similar poor state. Of course VF were thoroughly tainted and the whole network came into disrepute (and why not - if they couldnt one suburb out, why would the whole thing be any better??), and I don't believe they are in a recovered position.

 

It's amazing how quickly a brand can erode in value





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  #2250034 2-Jun-2019 17:35
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antoniosk:

 

I agree the state of Island Bay was an absolute abomination and a real indictment of vodatelstrasaturnchelloclearwhatever's lack of care of customers, but equally I dont believe the entire network was in a similar poor state. Of course VF were thoroughly tainted and the whole network came into disrepute (and why not - if they couldnt one suburb out, why would the whole thing be any better??), and I don't believe they are in a recovered position.

 

It's amazing how quickly a brand can erode in value

 

 

This, hence I am surprised as part of the sale they are keeping the Vodafone brand. I would of thought once they get all their service woes under control they would rebrand and start on a new page.


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  #2250057 2-Jun-2019 19:39
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Vodafone is still a strong (and well-known) brand in both NZ and the rest of the world - it's not like Telecom where it was mostly an NZ-only company.


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  #2253484 7-Jun-2019 01:44
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Bit late to the conversation, but appears they've forgotten to change the name under 'Important Things to Know' on the plan page:

 

  • FibreX is Vodafone’s hybrid fibre coaxial cable network.

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  #2260936 19-Jun-2019 15:06
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kingjj:

Bit late to the conversation, but appears they've forgotten to change the name under 'Important Things to Know' on the plan page:



  • FibreX is Vodafone’s hybrid fibre coaxial cable network.



Well it's still important to know that for existing customers!

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  #2261052 19-Jun-2019 19:06
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kingjj:

 

Bit late to the conversation, but appears they've forgotten to change the name under 'Important Things to Know' on the plan page:

 

  • FibreX is Vodafone’s hybrid fibre coaxial cable network.

 

The wording of "Important things to know" has now been revised :

 





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