[WXC/VFX] Torrent Plan - Last Night (Sunday)

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Swaney

35 posts

Geek

#27073 13-Oct-2008 12:47

Just wondering how other xnet users found the torrent plan last night? I am in Mairehau, Christchurch area

It was the worst I had ever seen it last night. I had all my downloads qued off rapidshare premium server to start at midnight - had about 700M I wanted to download (yep 1 movie).

Had a quick look at 7.30am - thinking I only wanted 700M surely they are all done... and it wasnt even through the first 100M file!

In 7 & 1/2 hours it downloaded 86Meg!!!! - was running at about 3.0K/s (slower than a 33.6k modem!!!!)

This is the worst I have ever struck - So phoned xnet who said it is currently being fine tuned and to hold tight for a couple of days (which I will happily do) then they added "although if you were not on the torrent plan then you would of had full speed."

Surely they cant sell this plan as FS down when infact they cap it? I thought thats what other ISP's got in trouble for last year?????

Then got talking to another mate on the otherside of my town in Riccarton (who i recoomended xnet too) and he said he was getting 100k/s+ over night (still not fast but easily workable)!

How can he being in the same city get 100k/s over night and me only get 3K/s overnight? I guess xnet cap per area exchange then..

So now im wondering how everybody else on the torrent plan found the speed last night

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11 posts

Geek

#170841 13-Oct-2008 13:00

Muhahaha. I got more downloaded overnight than you!120mb in 8 hours! - Have been getting this constantly for the last 2 weeks.
And that is using Usenet with SSL enabled, so shows that either the international link is flooded or they're rateshaping anything going to*.usenetserver.com - and leans to support about an overburdened intllink as SSL doesnt allow a packet switch (if they use one at Xnet) to showwhats inside the stream.
Im on the Hoon Hay exchange.

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attilathegorilla

213 posts

Master Geek

#170842 13-Oct-2008 13:10

I downloaded at about 20 KB/s, or 160 kbps. Got about 400MB with Utorrent. But my uploads were much better, which I can`t comprehend. Was going at my max rate which is set to 72 KB/S. Uploaded 1.9 GB overnight. My downloads have been much much worse than my uploads, which says to me it`s not simply a bandwidth issue, Xnet is messing about.

If honest work and justice are not enough - we'll get a lawyer.

ventolin

110 posts

Master Geek

#170849 13-Oct-2008 14:19

This actually started for me on saturday nightish, I now cannot download over 40kb/s even from gameplanet which is lol.

Tested the same file on the 2nd xnet connection we have which is non torrent plan and got 450kb/s, so thanks for capping xnet much appreciated.

burtz

168 posts

Master Geek

#170851 13-Oct-2008 14:35

I managed about 4 files overnight last night on usenet. I have just called xnet to switch back to the standard plan from torrent, they said it should take about 24 hours to come through...shouldn't they rename Torrent - TRICKLE ?

Harbinger

11 posts

Geek

#170853 13-Oct-2008 14:39

attilathegorilla: I downloaded at about 20 KB/s, or 160 kbps. Got about 400MB with Utorrent. But my uploads were much better, which I can`t comprehend. Was going at my max rate which is set to 72 KB/S. Uploaded 1.9 GB overnight. My downloads have been much much worse than my uploads, which says to me it`s not simply a bandwidth issue, Xnet is messing about.

Uploads wont be an issue - The International link will be hammered for traffic coning IN to the country,But going OUT it'll be pretty dead. - Sort of think of it like rush hour, everybody except the small few will be heading in one direction.

attilathegorilla

213 posts

Master Geek

#170862 13-Oct-2008 15:21

ventolin: This actually started for me on saturday nightish, I now cannot download over 40kb/s even from gameplanet which is lol.

Tested the same file on the 2nd xnet connection we have which is non torrent plan and got 450kb/s, so thanks for capping xnet much appreciated.

Hmmmm but gameplanet is national, innit? I simply can`t believe Xnet would throttle or pool the entire torrent plan. Then we shouldn`t have to pay any extra for day time usage. What for?

If honest work and justice are not enough - we'll get a lawyer.

badassbaz

11 posts

Geek

#170863 13-Oct-2008 15:23

I had all my downloads queued off a rapidshare premium server - not sure on speeds but but "DU meter" said i downloaded 2gigs.
Went through "DU meter" stats hour by hour

from midnight - 6am i was getting around 350MB an hour
6am - 8am 10MB an hour
i use internet download manager , download 15 things at the same time each in 8 segments

but guess these slow speeds will continue till xnet sorts out its S#$T

aucklander

477 posts

Ultimate Geek

#170866 13-Oct-2008 15:43

I kept an eye on xnet for months now... regarding this "torrent" plan.... I was planning to get rid of Woosh (Quicksilver) plan, 10Gb trafic. But what I see here definetely makes me think twice... 10GB trafic @ 1-2M/sec or 70GB @ 3k/sec ????

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Swaney

35 posts

Geek

#170868 13-Oct-2008 15:47

from midnight - 6am i was getting around 350MB an hour
6am - 8am 10MB an hour

as slow as that is id still swap ya!

And yep they are capping on a per plan basis - was what help desk told me this morning. The guy on the help desk was quite cool and straight up about it and could understand why we weren't happy.

So with that information Icant see how making the connection SSL (secure / encyrption) would increase speed at all.

TameIti

97 posts

Master Geek

#170873 13-Oct-2008 16:10

And yep they are capping on a per plan basis - was what help desk told me this morning. The guy on the help desk was quite cool and straight up about it and could understand why we weren't happy.

Probably the same guy I spoke to

. You really notice the difference between the ones that actually care (probably the ones with Xnet as their ISP having the same issue) compared to those that just tell you to suffer it.

inquiry

2 posts

Wannabe Geek

#170877 13-Oct-2008 16:18

Swaney, you also had the use of my bandwidth because I didn't even try to download anything substantial. I did try a speedtest. It kept timing out. I was also browsing an html manual that kept timing out. In the end I remembered I had a local hard disk version that I could browse.

3.0KB/s per connection sounds about right. But browsing a textual manual would still be fast without huge latency, dropped connections and massive packet loss. It appears that XNet are denial-of-servicing themselves. At gpforums there are multiple reports of "Rapidshare says I've run out of download traffic.":

"It says I've downloaded 10GB tonight, and yet my router says I have only done 2GB"
"ive had similar complaits on the helpdesk eh. that rapid share is saying tjhey have done their BW and xnet is saying something else."

This is an indication of approximately 80% packet loss. Xnet have so badly screwed up their network that for someone to download 75GB they will consume around 375GB of available bandwidth. This greatly compounds Xnet's network issues.

attilathegorilla in this thread "Got about 400MB with Utorrent.... Uploaded 1.9 GB overnight." I suspect he was sent around 2000MB for an overall share ratio of about 1:1. Xnet just lost 80% of the packets.

Before the change there was around 30KB/s per connection of bandwidth available between 12am-8am (a bit less early in the morning and substantially more later in the morning). Let's assume Xnet has now divided their bandwidth equally between torrent and non-torrent customers. That would be around 15KB/s per connection for torrent customers with most of the other bandwidth being thrown away to maintain latency for light non-torrent customers. Now add in 80% packet loss and 3KB/s per connection is the result. Before this change service was around 10 times better for torrent customers. And it used to keep getting even better later in the morning.

JUPITER2K

131 posts

Master Geek

#170890 13-Oct-2008 16:48

Honestly what Xnet should have done is to following Snap ISP, just take up a limited number of torrent plan users just to soak up the unused bandwidth instead of open door policy and end up with everyone suffer including the non-torrent plan users.

euanandrews

1528 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

#170895 13-Oct-2008 17:08

attilathegorilla: I simply can`t believe Xnet would throttle or pool the entire torrent plan.

Why not?
Surely your not that naive that you don't believe a business will do what is required to remain profitable?

xnet made a mistake, simple as that, and now they are regretting it, and being forced to make cutbacks.

TameIti

97 posts

Master Geek

#170907 13-Oct-2008 18:04

The plan isnt being throttled. End of story.

One person with different results isnt enough.

Malzy

3 posts

Wannabe Geek

#170908 13-Oct-2008 18:05

Swaney:
Just wondering how other xnet users found the torrent plan last night? I am in Mairehau, Christchurch area

It was the worst I had ever seen it last night. I had all my downloads qued off rapidshare premium server to start at midnight - had about 700M I wanted to download (yep 1 movie).

Had a quick look at 7.30am - thinking I only wanted 700M surely they are all done... and it wasnt even through the first 100M file!

In 7 & 1/2 hours it downloaded 86Meg!!!! - was running at about 3.0K/s (slower than a 33.6k modem!!!!)

This is the worst I have ever struck - So phoned xnet who said it is currently being fine tuned and to hold tight for a couple of days (which I will happily do) then they added "although if you were not on the torrent plan then you would of had full speed."

Surely they cant sell this plan as FS down when infact they cap it? I thought thats what other ISP's got in trouble for last year?????

Then got talking to another mate on the otherside of my town in Riccarton (who i recoomended xnet too) and he said he was getting 100k/s+ over night (still not fast but easily workable)!

How can he being in the same city get 100k/s over night and me only get 3K/s overnight? I guess xnet cap per area exchange then..

So now im wondering how everybody else on the torrent plan found the speed last night

Hi, this is my first post here.

I'm also in Mairehau, Christchurch and on the torrent plan. We have just changed over from Ihug (vodafone 20gig plan) after a two year term of awful sub 1mbit speeds. Our first night with Xnet blow me away, hittin 6+Mbit speeds. To good to be true, now we have the worst speeds imagineable, speedtest reports awsome local speeds up/down; but international down speeds are less than dail up. Uloads are good though

Should I wait or Shift to another ISP. Telecoms new pro plan looks good, but we are nervouse about getting stuck with another contract

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