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  #3418697 25-Sep-2025 10:34
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We are all just speculating about how coverage will go once the old 3g is gone, I am hoping that spark use this to sort out their crap network around Auckland where you get H+ and no data in so many places. I had that when parked in traffic on the north western motorway once. No tesla data so hotspotted the phone, and it was on H+ and nothing. Used the mighty mobile phone which is on one and it worked perfectly, but slowly as I was on the cheapest plan at the time.





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  #3418702 25-Sep-2025 11:01
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lol all these people whinging about Spark. You would have thought they’re the only telco, or at least, can’t easily port to another telco. Jesus wept. 🤦‍♂️ 


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  #3418705 25-Sep-2025 11:21
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Metamorphic:

 

Of interest to those with phones that lack 4G band 28 (e.g. USA model iPhone 11): my cellular provider (Mercury) has been unable to confirm with 100% confidence that the device will continue to work after the 3G shutdown. They say there are no plans to block the devices, but it seems like it's a wee bit of an unknown at this stage. Mercury uses Spark. I received this information from Mercury's cellular specialist, i.e. someone with subject matter expertise, not the regular customer support you get when you phone them.

 

 

@Metamorphic If your handset does not suppport band 28 then in many RCG locations sites only have band28 700Mhz so no coverage

 

Most of the urban / city sites also support band28 so you will be missing out on this coverage / capacity as well 

 

 

Yes. While obviously far from ideal, it's okay for my personal situation. Due to a chronic health condition I am almost always at home, and I live in a city. If I can use my iPhone 11 until it dies or no longer receive security updates, I'll be perfectly fine with it. It does everything I need from it. 




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  #3418715 25-Sep-2025 12:27
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Aucklandjafa:

 

lol all these people whinging about Spark. You would have thought they’re the only telco, or at least, can’t easily port to another telco. Jesus wept. 🤦‍♂️ 

 

 

Not everyone has a say in who their provider is. Plenty of corporate contracts with Telcos.


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  #3418717 25-Sep-2025 12:32
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Not everyone has a say in who their provider is. Plenty of corporate contracts with Telcos.

 

 

Also, its who tesla choose to use with their roaming sims. I know that If I am playing something and drive down onewa road it will crap out if I get held up around the BP at the bottom.





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  #3418719 25-Sep-2025 12:39
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Aucklandjafa:

 

lol all these people whinging about Spark. You would have thought they’re the only telco, or at least, can’t easily port to another telco. Jesus wept. 🤦‍♂️ 

 

 

 

 

As much as it's easy to crap on a mobile carrier... Sometimes these issues could be fixed if tickets were raised, the carrier got feedback and could be thrown on the whiteboard to fix at a later date.

 

 

 

Hell... Sometimes just a tilt is enough and all carriers have their strengths and weaknesses... Sometimes these issues could be fixed... 

 

 

 

But anyway I'm on a rant.

 

 





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  #3418731 25-Sep-2025 13:45
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I've just got back from the UK and I'd regularly be in situations where there was zero coverage, literally nothing. Many buildings don't have any repeaters so no coverage inside. Old fashioned double brick houses have crap reception, and then if you're not using a motorway and head off into the countryside you're really in trouble.

 

In comparison our networks here in NZ are excellent.





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  #3418735 25-Sep-2025 15:22
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RunningMan:

 

Aucklandjafa:

 

lol all these people whinging about Spark. You would have thought they’re the only telco, or at least, can’t easily port to another telco. Jesus wept. 🤦‍♂️ 

 

 

Not everyone has a say in who their provider is. Plenty of corporate contracts with Telcos.

 

 

most of the comments say how THEY moved to Spark and now regret it. Even so, most people keep their personal phone/number, seperate to their work phone.


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  #3418849 25-Sep-2025 21:16
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freitasm:

 

It was introduced as a warning.

 

I wonder if they play the message if you are on a 3G call only.

 

I also wonder if you the message is also played if you are using a VoLTE capable phone but the call is on 3G because the cell site is so overloaded that 4G coverage is reduced. In this case the message would be misleading.

 

 

I doubt it's based only on the real-time capability of the given call. They can tell what phone the customer has, what bands have been used by the device before etc so assuming they have added some smarts to their notification you'd like to think those cases have been weeded out.

 

But then I get surprised almost every day so who knows!


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  #3418855 25-Sep-2025 22:02
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I wouldn't be surprised.





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  #3418916 26-Sep-2025 08:26
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MaxineN:

 

As much as it's easy to crap on a mobile carrier... Sometimes these issues could be fixed if tickets were raised, the carrier got feedback and could be thrown on the whiteboard to fix at a later date.

 

 

I had a legit coverage fault for weeks with another telco whose helpdesk kept saying on a loop "no known fault, please update your phone OS and reboot and report back". Had to post here on GZ the exact site/sector.

 

Makes me wonder how tickets ever get raised if the bar is "no one else has filed a ticket for that area".

 

 

 

Anyway, agree Spark is not great these days. Ironically Spark now have a new TV ad that clearly suggests they think their coverage is superior. I think the ad is about 20 years too late. When even 2degrees is better in most places I go to, Spark really need to realise they lost their first mover advantage years ago and work on catching up.


 
 
 

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  #3418920 26-Sep-2025 08:49
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It was that.  Oddly it’s a still-current iPhone that lost 5G from settings somehow and it turned off wifi calling.  It’s a phone that can do VoLTE as the account’s call reporting shows the funky long phone numbers in the history 

 

 

@MadEngineer Phone numbers would remain the same on the reporting going over any mobile technology. Why would they change?

 

The numbers don’t change. We see a special prefix in the logs for VoLTE/4G/5G calls. 





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  #3418922 26-Sep-2025 09:14
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KiwiSurfer:

 

MaxineN:

 

As much as it's easy to crap on a mobile carrier... Sometimes these issues could be fixed if tickets were raised, the carrier got feedback and could be thrown on the whiteboard to fix at a later date.

 

 

I had a legit coverage fault for weeks with another telco whose helpdesk kept saying on a loop "no known fault, please update your phone OS and reboot and report back". Had to post here on GZ the exact site/sector.

 

Makes me wonder how tickets ever get raised if the bar is "no one else has filed a ticket for that area".

 

 

 

Anyway, agree Spark is not great these days. Ironically Spark now have a new TV ad that clearly suggests they think their coverage is superior. I think the ad is about 20 years too late. When even 2degrees is better in most places I go to, Spark really need to realise they lost their first mover advantage years ago and work on catching up.

 

 

That's because the coverage maps staff use are the exact same ones you see, so of course they don't see a fault because the coverage maps themselves are over delivering. They won't have access to the tools that shows what the UE is actually reporting back, nor will they have an understanding either. Breaking past level 1 is hard because of that. 

 

Yes I understand my whole spiel of raise a fault is neigh impossible but you really can't give up(which you didn't but, you shouldn't have to post to unofficial channels), the training offshore and onshore are unfortunately vastly different(and we train those people... only to pull a different spin).

 

The office where I work, is in Sir William Pickering Drive.

 

 

 

Spark and 2degrees struggle with this area whilst One NZ works quite well... yet the coverage map says its good. That street in the Canterbury Tech park is unfortunately a KNOWN problematic issue (and I did try and resolve this too, but had to do it via off channels.. like you).

 

I'm not gonna comment on One NZ because I have never had to log a coverage fault, however if you go past my post history, yep I've had to handle a few through this exact same forum because of wacky advice being given (I wonder if SH16 is any better these days ;) between Point Chev and Te Atatu south).

 

 

 

But we are going off topic severely now.





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  #3418925 26-Sep-2025 09:29
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Does anyone have actual details on claims like the following from 2D?

 

 

 

In our quest to constantly improve our network, sometimes we need to wave goodbye to older technology. That’s why we, along with other mobile operators in NZ, are starting to switch off our 3G network service towards the end of 2025 to enhance our 4G services

 


For example, does anyone know if providers will re-use the bands used by 3G for 4G LTE, or skip that and use them for 5G only?





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  #3418926 26-Sep-2025 09:37
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MadEngineer:

 

Does anyone have actual details on claims like the following from 2D?

 

 

 

In our quest to constantly improve our network, sometimes we need to wave goodbye to older technology. That’s why we, along with other mobile operators in NZ, are starting to switch off our 3G network service towards the end of 2025 to enhance our 4G services

 


For example, does anyone know if providers will re-use the bands used by 3G for 4G LTE, or skip that and use them for 5G only?

 

 

 

 

900 is already used in LTE and in 3G, so my imagination is that they will just increase the channel width of that space to cover up what was used when 3G is shut off.

 

It's not going to rock your world by any means, it will just enhance the capacity.





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