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#1352764 27-Jul-2015 18:11

I have a couple of useless machines with a win 7 or vista license stuck to them. Useless as in low spec core 2 era machines I bought ex lease.

Anyway. they are just sitting there at the moment doing nothing. I was planning on chucking a cheap i3 and 16 gigs and SSD into them.

Will I have to upgrade them, put 7 on it, activate it and then update, or can I put the 7 key from the case in when installing 10?

What if I have a machine die? How does it activate when I replace the motherboard etc in the machine with new ones? Will the call up and type numbers in only to have to give them to the person and then have a whole lot of numbers given back routine still work?

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#1352867 27-Jul-2015 20:13

nathan: You need to have a genuine activated OS to upgrade from, which we use to check you have an eligible OS

Once that check is performed your Windows 10 key is stored in the Cloud and you can fresh install as many times as you like.on that hardware

Bits to do this will.release on July 29

That's a good thing, for sure. I have a dual boot system, which I am assuming will not upgrade correctly without wiping android, and starting from fresh. Not sure but seems likely as dual boot is a bit dicey.

But obviously I can run the check and get a Windows 10 key, and then do a fresh install.

BTW Windows 10 looks genuinely great. Once all the hardware and software kinks are ironed out, over time, and the app store starts getting populated by all those developers looking to save dev costs on multiple platforms, I think this OS could be not just a huge hit, but a game changer.

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#1353000 28-Jul-2015 07:35

Thanks for all your helpful replies nathan. I am now locked an loaded on 6 laptops around home.

My question is: Is there a preferred upgrade path - do I use my broadband allowance (I'm on ADSL2 copper with enough left in this months allowance) and upgrade each individual laptop. Or should I download one ISO file, burn it and then upgrade the other laptops off that?

(i'd have to say this has been a remarkably simple process so far. No difficulties at all getting the wee Windows 10 icon in my system tray - I've used this as an excuse to resurrect old laptops from the back of the cupboard with Win7 and clean installed them so they are nice and fresh and ready to go)

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#1353002 28-Jul-2015 07:43

minimoke: Thanks for all your helpful replies nathan. I am now locked an loaded on 6 laptops around home.

My question is: Is there a preferred upgrade path - do I use my broadband allowance (I'm on ADSL2 copper with enough left in this months allowance) and upgrade each individual laptop. Or should I download one ISO file, burn it and then upgrade the other laptops off that?

(i'd have to say this has been a remarkably simple process so far. No difficulties at all getting the wee Windows 10 icon in my system tray - I've used this as an excuse to resurrect old laptops from the back of the cupboard with Win7 and clean installed them so they are nice and fresh and ready to go)

either of those. download is around 3Gb or download the ISO once

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#1353011 28-Jul-2015 07:48

networkn:
nathan:
networkn:
nathan:
antoniosk:
freitasm: If I reserve a copy from the popup do I have to install it?

good point - sony has asked owners to wait for driver support in august on this lappie

If the machine isn't compatible the reservation prompt will not activate

Is there a manual check we can do to check or confirm eligibility?

A compatibility check or a license check or.something else?

Well I don't have the pop up for reservation on one of my PC's despite having the Update installed which supposedly provides the ability to reserve it, so I am trying to determine for what reason it's been deemed it's ineligible or if there is another technical issue preventing it.

I haven't had the upgrade app/notification appear on any of my machines yet.

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#1353014 28-Jul-2015 07:54

Neither have I. But then I haven't done anything, it's just a fresh install of 8.1 home, with nothing added.

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#1353022 28-Jul-2015 07:59

Dreal: Neither have I. But then I haven't done anything, it's just a fresh install of 8.1 home, with nothing added.

you need these 2 from WU at least

3035583 Update installs Get Windows 10 app in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1
2976978 Compatibility update for Windows 8.1 and Windows 8

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#1353023 28-Jul-2015 08:02

sbiddle:
networkn:
nathan:
networkn:
nathan:
antoniosk:
freitasm: If I reserve a copy from the popup do I have to install it?

good point - sony has asked owners to wait for driver support in august on this lappie

If the machine isn't compatible the reservation prompt will not activate

Is there a manual check we can do to check or confirm eligibility?

A compatibility check or a license check or.something else?

Well I don't have the pop up for reservation on one of my PC's despite having the Update installed which supposedly provides the ability to reserve it, so I am trying to determine for what reason it's been deemed it's ineligible or if there is another technical issue preventing it.

I haven't had the upgrade app/notification appear on any of my machines yet.

either wait until tomorrow when you can download it directly

or if you want to force the reservation prompt

read the section called :Enable the Get Windows 10 app (notification area icon)

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351

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#1353024 28-Jul-2015 08:03

networkn:
nathan:
networkn:
nathan:
antoniosk:
freitasm: If I reserve a copy from the popup do I have to install it?

good point - sony has asked owners to wait for driver support in august on this lappie

If the machine isn't compatible the reservation prompt will not activate

Is there a manual check we can do to check or confirm eligibility?

A compatibility check or a license check or.something else?

Well I don't have the pop up for reservation on one of my PC's despite having the Update installed which supposedly provides the ability to reserve it, so I am trying to determine for what reason it's been deemed it's ineligible or if there is another technical issue preventing it.

See Enable the Get Windows 10 app (notification area icon)

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351

There is a script there you can run which will fire off the Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser

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#1353025 28-Jul-2015 08:03

I have both updates installed and have the new search button appearing on 8.1 but no sign of the Win 10 update notofications.

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#1353028 28-Jul-2015 08:04

richms: I have a couple of useless machines with a win 7 or vista license stuck to them. Useless as in low spec core 2 era machines I bought ex lease.

Anyway. they are just sitting there at the moment doing nothing. I was planning on chucking a cheap i3 and 16 gigs and SSD into them.

Will I have to upgrade them, put 7 on it, activate it and then update, or can I put the 7 key from the case in when installing 10?

What if I have a machine die? How does it activate when I replace the motherboard etc in the machine with new ones? Will the call up and type numbers in only to have to give them to the person and then have a whole lot of numbers given back routine still work?

You can't activate a 10 machine with a 7 key

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#1353040 28-Jul-2015 08:07

So how will the activation work on a case when there is significant hardware changes needing a complete re installation?

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#1353044 28-Jul-2015 08:15

richms: So how will the activation work on a case when there is significant hardware changes needing a complete re installation?

the same way it does today

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#1353054 28-Jul-2015 08:30

nathan:
richms: So how will the activation work on a case when there is significant hardware changes needing a complete re installation?

the same way it does today

which is call the number and do it manually?

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#1353058 28-Jul-2015 08:32

Jase2985:
nathan:
richms: So how will the activation work on a case when there is significant hardware changes needing a complete re installation?

the same way it does today

which is call the number and do it manually?

yes, offline activation
0800 800 004

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