[Annoy] What's something small that really annoys you?

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#2954383 14-Aug-2022 00:06

Motorola, you screwed me for the last time with your ever hanging Android updates.

LineageOS is now doing your job for the Moto backup phone and Apple has got the main job. That's it with you and your last patch from February 2019. :-)

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#2954603 14-Aug-2022 20:34

The totally braindamaged way OWA handles deletion of email. I've got an account which I rarely use that I need to access via OWA and that tends to accumulate a lot of junk, some of which is useful, most of which isn't, the useful stuff gets moved into separate folders. To delete all messages older than, say, three months, the procedure is:

Search by date.

Scroll down to the last message displayed... scroll... scroll... scroll... scroll... eventually you get there.

Hit Ctrl-A, Delete.

Since a maximum of 1,000 messages can be displayed, you then need to repeat this over and over again to get all the messages:

Search, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, Ctrl-A, Delete.

However, once there's no more results in the messages folder, OWA will start returning random results from other folders, in other words messages you actually want to keep, and present them as messages to be deleted. Pure genius!

Next, you need to actually delete the messages you've just deleted. For that, you need to go to the Deleted Items folder and repeat the process.

However, even then they're still not deleted. You then need to go to the Recoverable Items folder and delete all the messages a third time.

After all that, you'd finally managed to delete all emails older than a certain date. Well, alongside the ones you wanted to keep that OWA randomly threw in there.

I know that people like to criticise MS for bad UI design but this one is outstanding even by their usual levels of poor design.

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#2954611 14-Aug-2022 21:39

neb: The totally braindamaged way OWA handles deletion of email. I've got an account which I rarely use that I need to access via OWA and that tends to accumulate a lot of junk, some of which is useful, most of which isn't, the useful stuff gets moved into separate folders. To delete all messages older than, say, three months, the procedure is: Search by date. Scroll down to the last message displayed... scroll... scroll... scroll... scroll... eventually you get there. Hit Ctrl-A, Delete. Since a maximum of 1,000 messages can be displayed, you then need to repeat this over and over again to get all the messages: Search, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, Ctrl-A, Delete. Search, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, Ctrl-A, Delete. Search, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, Ctrl-A, Delete.

In case you didn't know, if you <shift>-<delete> you will skip a step and delete them permanently.

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#2954615 14-Aug-2022 21:45

elpenguino:
In case you didn't know, if you <shift>-<delete> you will skip a step and delete them permanently.

Ahh, good to know. However it only skips one of the three deletion steps, it's still present in the Recoverable Items folder so you still need to delete it a second time.

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#2954617 14-Aug-2022 22:13

Do you have to delete (make unrecoverable) ?

Can you use a time based rule to do this instead?

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#2954618 14-Aug-2022 22:21

elpenguino:
Can you use a time based rule to do this instead?

AFAIK those rules only work in the inbox folder, I'd want one to run on Deleted Items. That is, in the original message I was referring to deleting stuff in Deleted Items older than a certain time (I didn't go into every detail since it was already long enough).

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#2954669 14-Aug-2022 22:54

neb:
elpenguino:

Can you use a time based rule to do this instead?

AFAIK those rules only work in the inbox folder, I'd want one to run on Deleted Items. That is, in the original message I was referring to deleting stuff in Deleted Items older than a certain time (I didn't go into every detail since it was already long enough).

Right click -> empty deleted items. Something that, for what it's worth, isn't available on Gmail.

Outlook will 100% obliterate deleted items by the way, either based on your retention policy, your admin's retention policy, or the service's.

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#2954672 14-Aug-2022 22:59

Kyanar:
Right click -> empty deleted items. Something that, for what it's worth, isn't available on Gmail.

That's all deleted items. As I mentioned, I only want to delete ones older than a certain date in case there's something in there that in retrospect is still useful.

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#2954681 15-Aug-2022 07:33

If you delete something and empty the deleted folder it will go by default into the recovery list. Items older than a month (or depending of your service settings) are removed. My Exchange Online keeps the last 30 days there. Wouldn't that work for you?

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#2954684 15-Aug-2022 08:12

Near-completely useless error messages.

Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "(url)" on this server.

Reference (number)

That's the entire message. No contact link, no details on what to do with that reference number... and according to Wikipedia this is from a company with 300k employees and US$72 billion in revenue last year. How hard is it to build a better error page?!

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#2954741 15-Aug-2022 09:18

neb:
Kyanar:

Right click -> empty deleted items. Something that, for what it's worth, isn't available on Gmail.

That's all deleted items. As I mentioned, I only want to delete ones older than a certain date in case there's something in there that in retrospect is still useful.

I don't play it that way. I'm a bit more ruthless because there's so much information to process these days, I make a decision to keep or bin and after the decision, that's it.

Most of the posters in this thread are just like chimpanzees on MDMA, full of feelings of bonhomie, joy, and optimism. Fred99 8/4/21

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#2954753 15-Aug-2022 10:06

neb:
Handle9: So you’ve never been on DB then?

I was impressed at how on-schedule the trains in Gemany and Austria ran, you could sit there watching the station clock and as the second hand got to zero the train would start moving.

Places like Slovakia OTOH have trains that don't run so much by a schedule as brownian motion.

Japan takes the Gold for train punctuality. The average delay for a Shinkansen is 20 seconds!

Cf Kiwi Rail who deem “same day you left” as punctual! 🤣

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#2954851 15-Aug-2022 12:38

Behodar:

That's the entire message. No contact link, no details on what to do with that reference number... and according to Wikipedia this is from a company with 300k employees and US$72 billion in revenue last year. How hard is it to build a better error page?!

That message is generated by their CDN because you've been deemed an undesirable who shall not access the website - usually because you're on a VPN or something, or the website owner blocked your country. I don't recall for sure but I think that's Akamai.