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Rikkitic
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  #3033733 8-Feb-2023 21:11
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johno1234:

 

I'm answering for you, not them. I'm not explaining this to them. I'm explaining it to you. You appear paternalistic, thinking these women aren't empowered choose their own shoes.

 

As I said, Hayley Holt wears sneakers without issue from management.

 

 

 

 

I think you are a bit blinkered in your thinking. You seem to believe there is no such thing as unspoken rules or expectations. I can't speak for Hayley Holt and wouldn't if I could, but I very much doubt many women wear heels by choice. For one thing, they are uncomfortable. Here is one article on the subject.

 

 

 

 





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  #3033749 8-Feb-2023 21:59
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Rikkitic:

 

I very much doubt many women wear heels by choice. For one thing, they are uncomfortable. Here is one article on the subject.

 

 

That's a really odd statement to make. I know women with loads of high heels including my 3 sisters and no-one forced them to buy them or wear them.

 

Lots of things benefit you but are uncomfortable. I am pretty sure no-one would exercise if there was a less uncomfortable more effective way to achieve the same thing.

 

 


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  #3033752 8-Feb-2023 22:07
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hotsupes:

 

KFC changing their spice recipe - KFC chicken 10 years ago was SO much more tasty than it is now :( Did they have MSG or something which they were forced to take out? Or did they cheapen ingredients? Is there somewhere where they still serve the original flavour?

 

 

MSG is still found in a lot of foods even today - look for "Flavour Enhancer E621" on the ingredients.

 

 

 

 

Yes I'm fully aware of this, i'm just saying that a lot of companies used to say "MSG free" as a marketing ploy, so I figured they had removed it for marketing reasons or they changed ingredients in order to reduce costs.

 

The new formula is an exact copy of how the KFC used to taste in some parts of Asia when I used to get it KFC there, the only positive takeaway is that I no longer eat KFC xD


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  #3033763 8-Feb-2023 23:36
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That's a really odd statement to make. I know women with loads of high heels including my 3 sisters and no-one forced them to buy them or wear them.

 

Lots of things benefit you but are uncomfortable. I am pretty sure no-one would exercise if there was a less uncomfortable more effective way to achieve the same thing.

 

 

 

 

Talk about odd statements. I would like to meet anyone who thinks high heels are in any way beneficial. I can point you to any number of articles about just how hazardous to health and comfort high heels are. 

 

 

 

 





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  #3033787 9-Feb-2023 07:42
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The whole women's beauty and fashion industries are scams to part people with large amounts of money for no "real" benefit to them.  Impractical shoes, painting colours on your face and how dare you wear the same item of clothing more than one time.  While no one person may be forcing someone to wear high heels, society through advertising etc has conditioned us to expect that is the norm and you are not worthy/beautiful/pretty if you don't conform to these invented arbitrary standards.





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  #3033791 9-Feb-2023 07:58
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Rikkitic:

 

Talk about odd statements. I would like to meet anyone who thinks high heels are in any way beneficial. I can point you to any number of articles about just how hazardous to health and comfort high heels are. 

 

 

Many women feel it makes them look more attractive. That's a benefit.

 

 


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  #3033794 9-Feb-2023 08:03
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Rikkitic:

 

.... I would much prefer all presenters to wear comfortable, natural looking clothes and shoes. This is the 21st century, after all...

 

 

Billy tried to set the trend back in the 1980's....didn't catch on sadly.

 





Did Eric Clapton really think she looked wonderful...or was it after the 15th outfit she tried on and he just wanted to get to the party and get a drink?


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  #3033795 9-Feb-2023 08:04
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@Networkn Yes my current position definitely concurs that how I feel is beneficial. It is also non beneficial. We all do things that make us feel good which in reality is not necessarily good for us.

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  #3033809 9-Feb-2023 08:48
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geoffwnz:

 

The whole women's beauty and fashion industries are scams to part people with large amounts of money for no "real" benefit to them.  Impractical shoes, painting colours on your face and how dare you wear the same item of clothing more than one time.  While no one person may be forcing someone to wear high heels, society through advertising etc has conditioned us to expect that is the norm and you are not worthy/beautiful/pretty if you don't conform to these invented arbitrary standards.

 

 

But go into any mall and you will see at least 1/2 of it is dedicated to women's fashion, jewellery , makeup/perfume, etc. ALL high markup items.

 

My granddaughter, age 12, is already wanting to pile on make-up, wants expensive clothes, etc.

 

Give me someone intelligent, educated, thoughtful , kind, honest, loyal, and someone I can talk to for the rest of my life.

 

youth, pretty, slim all fade with age, and if thats all you have you are of no interest to me.

 

Just look at all the celebrities who get divorced...some regularly...perhaps the important bits are missing


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  #3033810 9-Feb-2023 08:49
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Wow, never knew that

 

"MSG can be used to reduce sodium in these foods without a taste trade-off. MSG contains about 12 percent sodium, which is two-thirds less than that contained in table salt, and data shows a 25 to 40 percent reduction in sodium is possible in specific product categories when MSG is substituted for some salt"

 

I guess I was subject to the general uninformed opinion of MSG

 

 

There's an excellent episode of the This American Life podcast back in 2019 that explores the origins of the vilification of MSG, which was in a hoax letter to a scientific journal back in the late 1960s: https://www.thisamericanlife.org/668/the-long-fuse (Also mentioned in Zoe's 'all you need to know' summary on MSG.) It would be interesting to know what % of the population still have fears of/concerns about MSG...

 

 


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  #3033814 9-Feb-2023 08:54
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networkn:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Talk about odd statements. I would like to meet anyone who thinks high heels are in any way beneficial. I can point you to any number of articles about just how hazardous to health and comfort high heels are. 

 

 

Many women feel it makes them look more attractive. That's a benefit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are FAR more important things than "looks", they are more likely to be seen as a sex object , a conquest that once achieved can be abandoned for the next "pretty wee thing"

 

Give me educated, intelligent, kind, compassionate, and someone I can talk to for the rest of my life, all the skin deep stuff fades over time/


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  #3033818 9-Feb-2023 09:07
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The benefit is to attract. Women have been painting their faces and wearing embellishments for thousands of years including when they were in caves. With more women than men on the planet they’ve figured out what attracts a mate and use that method because for the majority they are just fulfilling their job description of being the procreators that keep our civilisation growing.

There are now many aberrations to that system but the fanatics difficult work continues, however attempts to improve the system by wearing tramping boots with a strappy dress seem to be failing...the birth rate continues to decline.

Eventually when wisdom overrides the urge to procreate, flat shoes become de rigueur

Please insert smiley faces at every punctuation mark.

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  #3033819 9-Feb-2023 09:13
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sir1963:

 

There are FAR more important things than "looks", they are more likely to be seen as a sex object , a conquest that once achieved can be abandoned for the next "pretty wee thing"

 

Give me educated, intelligent, kind, compassionate, and someone I can talk to for the rest of my life, all the skin deep stuff fades over time/

 

 

There are far more important thing to YOU than looks. That doesn't cover everyone, including the women themselves. 

 

The suggestion that women ONLY wear high heels for other people or because of an unspoken rule, or because they feel compelled to, is patently untrue. 

 

It may be true for some or many women.

 

For the record, my wife has never worn heels, I don't think she owns any and it's never bothered me either way.

 

 

 

 


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  #3033821 9-Feb-2023 09:14
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People's inability to just take something on face value without getting offended - that annoys me. 

 

 

 

Harold Styles won an award at the Groscars and in his speech he said sometihng along the lines of "Things like this generally don't happen to people like me"...or words to that effect. 

 

He had previously been on the red carpet dressed (in the words of one critic) like a filthy wizard's plaything - a brightly coloured body suit of the kind you'd see on Freddy Mercury in the 1970's. 

 

 

 

People are upset for a variety of reasons: 

 

1. He's not black and/or female, so is therefore displaying incredible white male privilege by stating that these things don't happen to people like him...

 

2. He's somewhat androgynous at times and the LGBTQ+ community (not all of them, obviously) are up in arms, because he's not gay enough to make a statement like that...or something to that effect

 

3. It should have gone to Lizzo or Beyonce, because they're strong black women and it's Black History Month

 

4. He's a man...the end

 

 

 

Can people not just be happy that an award was won, a speech was made and it didn't change anyone else's life in any large way? There are so many other things to be outraged about. 





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Handsome Dan needs to stop adding three dots to every sentence...

 

Handsome Dan does not currently have a side hustle as the mascot for Yale 

 

 

 

*Gladly accepting donations...


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  #3033822 9-Feb-2023 09:19
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Eva888: The benefit is to attract. Women have been painting their faces and wearing embellishments for thousands of years including when they were in caves. With more women than men on the planet they’ve figured out what attracts a mate and use that method because for the majority they are just fulfilling their job description of being the procreators that keep our civilisation growing.

There are now many aberrations to that system but the fanatics difficult work continues, however attempts to improve the system by wearing tramping boots with a strappy dress seem to be failing...the birth rate continues to decline.

Eventually when wisdom overrides the urge to procreate, flat shoes become de rigueur

Please insert smiley faces at every punctuation mark.

 

 

 

If procreation was the sole driver, polyamory would be far more common.

 

The issue is that women have found things that are far more interesting to them than children, and certainly far more interesting than multiple children. Particularly to those who have no religious impetus to have large families.

 

I went to primary school where the class mate was the youngest of 17 children.

 

Bill gates was right when he said vaccination (and healthcare) were the best drivers for reducing the worlds population, not because vaccines are harmful (anti-vaxxer BS), it just that people no longer needed huge families to ensure some survived long enough to take care of the parents when the got old.

 

Education is another driver, the more educated the women are, the smaller than families are (in general).

 

Along with that is recognition of women being equal to men, having equal rights, and being allowed to choose their own lives. This includes getting rid of the ideology that a woman without children must be barren, that there is something wrong with her.


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