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#3199391 24-Feb-2024 10:56

Ok, this one fits in both Deplorables (Politics) and here. I will go with here. Saw this a few days ago and since no one mentioned, here it is.

Christian conservative Canadian family thinks their country is too "woke". They selll everything and move to Russia, a good conservative country where "left-wing ideology" has no place.

They can't get the bank to free their money because it's too much, and the bank is suspicious of money laundering (in Russia, oh the irony). They find out no one speaks English. The "nice government people" who helped them move have now disappeared. They complained on social media by posting a video.

After a while the video was removed and the mother "Arend released an apology video in which he claimed their "thoughts aren't always conveyed properly.""

Nice family you have there. It would be a shame if any were to fall from a window.
Consider yourself lucky your husband hasn't been drafted after your public complaints - yet.

Conservative Family Complains About Life in Russia After Moving to Escape 'Left-wing Ideology' (msn.com)

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#3199394 24-Feb-2024 11:16

networkn: Todays Whisky TF for me is seeing someone make light of a genuine tragedy.

Not making light. Expressing outrage.

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#3199856 25-Feb-2024 14:29

It's been beer o'clock for the last four hours, lets see what new chip flavour we can come up with once the room stops spinning.

Hey, I know, what about...

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#3199882 25-Feb-2024 16:19

neb: It's been beer o'clock for the last four hours, lets see what new chip flavour we can come up with once the room stops spinning.

Quite simply, when you switch the light on again, the room stops.😉

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#3199887 25-Feb-2024 16:34

neb: It's been beer o'clock for the last four hours, lets see what new chip flavour we can come up with once the room stops spinning. Hey, I know, what about...

Chips go with

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#3200040 26-Feb-2024 09:05

djtOtago:

Chips go with

Those are actually pretty good if you like the taste of pickles! One of my preferred beers (I'm not usually much of a beer drinker).

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#3200161 26-Feb-2024 12:22

gzt:
I don't find that surprising given the very clickable content produced from it.

I'm wondering if the meanings of words like "shock", "horror", "tantrum", "explode", "implode", "disaster", "catastrophe", "crush", "devastate", "destroy", etc, etc in general use will change to the meaningless meaning they have in social media? Will it become commonplace to say something like "I exploded when I dropped my pen"? Or will they continue to have different meanings in social media from elsewhere? So O.E.D. might add new meanings to those words in future editions?

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#3200162 26-Feb-2024 12:29

neb: It's the US, they were using the guns during filming breaks to shoot at things. Edited to add: Seriously, they were. This is the US, there's guns lying around, we're on our lunch break, let's shoot something, that's how the live ammunition got mixed in.

And, according to the producers, it's the armorer's job to set the rules for the use of guns on the set. So it's perfectly acceptable for her to agree to shooting some things with the real gun that they're going to use later on the set, but it's her responsibility to ensure it's done safely. Hence she carries the can.

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#3200163 26-Feb-2024 12:33

Same basket as "broke the internet". These will not last long. It's a first generation thing imo. To be fair you could have a side study on how these and others are regularly used in sporting commentary.

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#3200164 26-Feb-2024 12:36

gzt: Same basket as "broke the internet". These will not last long. It's a first generation thing imo. To be fair you could have a side study on how these and others are regularly used in sporting commentary.

"Terrifying" for things that are merely amusing.

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#3200165 26-Feb-2024 12:46

Language changes over time. It always has done, and always will.

40 or so years ago, I remember my Grandmother's reaction when I said the school camp was awesome. She was genuinely confused, and asked me what was so terrifying about it. In her generation, awesome meant something invoking awe (as in terror), as we would recognize in 'shock and awe'.

Language change is a slow process of people changing how they use words, and people resistant to change pushing back, usually unsuccessfully. Look how the word 'gay' has transformed over the last 50 years.

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#3200226 26-Feb-2024 13:31

frankv:

And, according to the producers, it's the armorer's job to set the rules for the use of guns on the set. So it's perfectly acceptable for her to agree to shooting some things with the real gun that they're going to use later on the set, but it's her responsibility to ensure it's done safely. Hence she carries the can.

I know Americans are cavalier about firearms since everyone has them, but I still have a hard time understanding this. Not only is it irresponsible, it is just unbelievably stupid. Surely common sense would suggest that prop firearms should be kept strictly separated from recreational ones. And isn't this film set in the old west? Were the prop guns period pieces? Would modern ammo fit in them? What kind of idiot would load them with such? And why are they able to fire lethal ammunition at all if they are props? I don't know a lot about guns but surely it is possible to modify the props so they can only fire blanks?

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#3200253 26-Feb-2024 15:12

Rikkitic:

I know Americans are cavalier about firearms since everyone has them, but I still have a hard time understanding this. Not only is it irresponsible, it is just unbelievably stupid. Surely common sense would suggest that prop firearms should be kept strictly separated from recreational ones. And isn't this film set in the old west? Were the prop guns period pieces? Would modern ammo fit in them? What kind of idiot would load them with such? And why are they able to fire lethal ammunition at all if they are props? I don't know a lot about guns but surely it is possible to modify the props so they can only fire blanks?

I must admit I don't understand it myself. Whatever the reason, it must have been a good one since it meant that they paid a (part-time) armourer for a week or more.

Maybe, for the sake of authenticity, they felt they needed to use actual Wild West guns, not props that just looked right. Maybe they needed to fire blanks so that some smoke would come out of the barrel or people would react appropriately to the "Bang". Maybe it was just cheaper to get actual guns than to find or create fake ones. Maybe there was some kind of perk deal whereby people would acquire genuine old west guns for a song after the movie was finished.

A blank is a regular cartridge, just without the lead projectile. People have been injured by being shot with blanks. I guess you could modify a revolver by putting something in each of the chambers so you couldn't fit an actual live bullet in there. Or you could modify the guns so that they couldn't fire at all. But that's something an armorer would do, so wouldn't have changed anything.

Anyway, they hired a gun nut named Hannah Gutierrez-Reed as the lead armorer, because who else wants to be an armorer? And they designated her as having total control over the gun(s), because that's the whole point of having an armorer. But she was young, inexperienced, and careless. And, I imagine, it would be mighty boring sitting out in the middle of nowhere for days on end with nothing to do but occasionally hand out guns to actors and collect them in again. So, what does a gun nut do when they're bored? Shoot guns, of course. And what better guns to shoot than period pieces that are over 100 years old and you've never seen before? And, obviously, firing a blank or shouting "bang" isn't the whole experience, even if you're holding the genuine thing. So it's a test of the gun nut's true gun nuttiness to be able to acquire or make actual live ammunition. Anyone who wants to can now praise the gun nut's cleverness and get a unique genuine old West experience, blazing away at beer cans or whatever. I expect that there probably was a rule that said no live ammo, but, on the set, the armorer is the ultimate authority on who can do what with guns, so who's going to say no? And the safety officer turned a blind eye.

An oddity in this is that Gutierrez-Reed was only a part-time armorer, and her contract as armorer had finished a few days earlier, so now she was just a regular prop assistant. So apparently no-one was specifically in charge of the guns any more, although it seems that Gutierrez-Reed still took care of them, and handed the loaded gun to Alec Baldwin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_shooting_incident

FWIW, New Mexico, where this happened, has practically no restriction on gun ownership... you only need a permit for concealed carry.

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#3200267 26-Feb-2024 15:50

frankv: A blank is a regular cartridge, just without the lead projectile. People have been injured by being shot with blanks.

Actor Brandon Lee was fatally shot with a prop gun on the set of the 1994 film “The Crow.” The star — who was the son of martial arts icon Bruce Lee. The lead tip of a bullet from a previous scene had stayed in the barrel of a handgun when a blank was shot at Lee.

Actor Jon-Erik Hexum died by a prop gunshot to the head while filming the CBS series “Cover Up” back in 1984. As a joke, he put a .44 Magnum, which was loaded with blanks, to his head and pulled the trigger.

A friend of my used a 357 magnum pistol with a blank pressed against a book. It blew an impressive hole in it.

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#3200273 26-Feb-2024 16:31

I do know (I think) that blanks are only safe at a distance and are not intended for close range. Multiple people have been killed or injured this way. The blank wadding still comes out with a lot of force from the explosion of gunpowder.

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