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#2918317 25-May-2022 12:20

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What the compulsory buy out did do, was give those military style semi-autos an official price, which the gangs were happy to beat. The policy may have increased the numbers of MSSAs in the possession of criminal gangs.

Official policy can be legitimately criticised for many things, but this argument makes no sense to me. If people have weapons and are willing to sell them, the gangs that want them will pay whatever they cost. They are not going to be doing shopping comparisons on Pricespy.

The bigger issue is that we have spent an (yet again) unknown number of hundred million dollars on a buy back scheme that will have achieved very little. Those willing to sell their guns aren't the ones likely to be committing the crimes using them, and those who want to keep their weapons a secret, will have been pretty much unaffected by this scheme.

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#2918330 25-May-2022 12:45

Seeing $1000+ photography items listed for sale on various classifieds platforms with reason for sale stating 'Unwanted Gift'.

Who are these people who are prepared give a four-figure present to someone that they obviously don't know well enough to know what they'd like. I want to meet them and be their friend.

Did Eric Clapton really think she looked wonderful...or was it after the 15th outfit she tried on and he just wanted to get to the party and get a drink?

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#2918337 25-May-2022 13:41

networkn:

The bigger issue is that we have spent an (yet again) unknown number of hundred million dollars on a buy back scheme that will have achieved very little. Those willing to sell their guns aren't the ones likely to be committing the crimes using them, and those who want to keep their weapons a secret, will have been pretty much unaffected by this scheme.

Seems we have multiple community members who would be happy having weapons suitable for massacres out in the community.

To that, I say Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

I hope it doesnt happen at the school your kids attend.

Most of the posters in this thread are just like chimpanzees on MDMA, full of feelings of bonhomie, joy, and optimism. Fred99 8/4/21

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#2918338 25-May-2022 13:47

elpenguino:

Seems we have multiple community members who would be happy having weapons suitable for massacres out in the community.

To that, I say Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

I hope it doesnt happen at the school your kids attend.

ROFL what a ridiculous conclusion to draw and a dumb thing to say in response.

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#2918343 25-May-2022 13:55

networkn:

elpenguino:

Seems we have multiple community members who would be happy having weapons suitable for massacres out in the community.

To that, I say Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

I hope it doesnt happen at the school your kids attend.

ROFL what a ridiculous conclusion to draw and a dumb thing to say in response.

Ahh, so you're pro the buy back but just wanted to complain about 'the gummint' ?

Most of the posters in this thread are just like chimpanzees on MDMA, full of feelings of bonhomie, joy, and optimism. Fred99 8/4/21

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#2918348 25-May-2022 14:00

Rikkitic:

I frankly cannot understand why anyone needs to have a gun. It is a 'recreational' activity, not (yet) essential for defence or food. Hunters need to find another hobby. If shooting animals is necessary for culling, restrict it to qualified professionals. No-one else actually 'needs' a gun.

If you limit possessions to what people need it wouldn't be much. There are many things people don't need that cause harm (social media and bicycles for example). However, I suspect this statement is more about a personal view than any genuine usage of the word need.

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#2918349 25-May-2022 14:02

At least our government is trying which is a 1,000% more than the idiots in Washington DC and most State capitals.

My heart and thoughts go out to the folks in Uvalde. Kia kaha,

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#2918350 25-May-2022 14:03

elpenguino:

Ahh, so you're pro the buy back but just wanted to complain about 'the gummint' ?

You seem to be having a general comprehension failure.

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#2918402 25-May-2022 14:18

networkn:

elpenguino:

Ahh, so you're pro the buy back but just wanted to complain about 'the gummint' ?

You seem to be having a general comprehension failure.

Try writing more clearly.

Most of the posters in this thread are just like chimpanzees on MDMA, full of feelings of bonhomie, joy, and optimism. Fred99 8/4/21

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#2918406 25-May-2022 14:19

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Would make motorsport really boring, but we don't *need* to do motorsport I guess.

I think it's fairly obviously implied he means road transport vehicle :)

Rally car is and needs to be road legal for the touring stages, so I can go get the groceries in it if I want to. It's just too much faffing around with full harnesses and climbing over roll cage to make that fun after the first couple of times. :-)

Most club level cars are driven to and from events also. Even some higher level ones.

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#2918408 25-May-2022 14:23

elpenguino:

Try writing more clearly.

It doesn't seem to be that anyone else is having trouble picking up what I was saying...

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#2918414 25-May-2022 14:33

MikeAqua:

If you limit possessions to what people need it wouldn't be much. There are many things people don't need that cause harm (social media and bicycles for example). However, I suspect this statement is more about a personal view than any genuine usage of the word need.

Of course it is a personal view. I just don’t think guns should rate so high on some people’s nice to have list. It isn’t about bad intentions, irresponsible use, criminal activity, or any of the other clichés that keep getting thrown up. It is about those who seem to think that happiness is a warm gun. Can you really not find the same satisfaction somewhere else? What is it that makes a deadly weapon so important to possess?

Want to hunt deer or other game animals? Try doing it with a knife. At least that’s a more equal match. Shooting something from so far away that you can’t even see it without a telescopic sight doesn’t strike me as particularly manly or Palaeolithic, if that is the effect being aimed for. Try shooting with a camera instead. Same stalking skills required, same proof that you made the kill, just no dead animal at the end. Win win.

Who needs a gun? There are excellent non-lethal simulations for every form of recreational activity anyone can dream up. Go to war in a Laser tag room. Demolish clay targets with an air rifle. Have a water gun fight with your children. All good clean healthy fun.

Is flying your thing but an inability to tell up from down keeps you grounded? Try a flight simulator. You can crash as often as you like.

I understand that many people enjoy recreational shooting and do it responsibly. I just don’t get that they have to do it with guns when there are so many good alternatives available.

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#2918428 25-May-2022 15:34

My WFT on this gun issue is: when we returned home from Aussie in 2014 we were astounded with the very poor or non existence and resistance to a gun register in NZ.

Yes you have to go through certain hoops to get a license but what is SO HARD about gun number to license to person. The mind boggles. It is a simple database spread sheet FFS ❗️❗️❗️You sell the weapon you tell the authority, just like a motor vehicle.

Whilst the difficult we can do immediately, the impossible takes a bit longer. However, miracles you will have to wait for.

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#2918519 25-May-2022 16:57

elpenguino:

Seems we have multiple community members who would be happy having weapons suitable for massacres out in the community.

To that, I say Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

I assume you'll want to ban vans and aeroplanes then. That'll work.

You need to control the people, not the tools. The ChCh killer shouldn't have had access to firearms. USA's gun laws are woefully inadequate (but arguably their horse has irretrievably bolted).

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#2918530 25-May-2022 17:13

Rikkitic:

Of course it is a personal view. I just don’t think guns should rate so high on some people’s nice to have list. It isn’t about bad intentions, irresponsible use, criminal activity, or any of the other clichés that keep getting thrown up. It is about those who seem to think that happiness is a warm gun. Can you really not find the same satisfaction somewhere else? What is it that makes a deadly weapon so important to possess?

Want to hunt deer or other game animals? Try doing it with a knife. At least that’s a more equal match. Shooting something from so far away that you can’t even see it without a telescopic sight doesn’t strike me as particularly manly or Palaeolithic, if that is the effect being aimed for. Try shooting with a camera instead. Same stalking skills required, same proof that you made the kill, just no dead animal at the end. Win win.

Who needs a gun? There are excellent non-lethal simulations for every form of recreational activity anyone can dream up. Go to war in a Laser tag room. Demolish clay targets with an air rifle. Have a water gun fight with your children. All good clean healthy fun.

I understand that many people enjoy recreational shooting and do it responsibly. I just don’t get that they have to do it with guns when there are so many good alternatives available.

Well, you've comprehensively demonstrated that you don't understand hunting or hunters, lol.

Firearms are popular because they are effective. Ethically, and from a food quality perspective, hunters want a fast clean kill. Ideally the animal is deceased before it hits the ground.

Killing a deer with a knife or spear would be possible, but hard work and cruel. Some pig hunters use knives. I don't. The desire to hunt is a human instinct but not a uniquely male one. Plenty of women hunt (10% of firearms licence holders are women), enough to justify the design and manufacture of hunting clothing specifically for women.

Hunters aren't trying to be manly (especially the women, I presume). They are doing something they like, that is challenging and gets them out into beautiful places doing exercise. For me provision is one of my love languages, I like to provide for my family through my own efforts.

If you think it's easy to hunt deer with a rifle and scope ... guess again. It's not even easy to hit targets at 100m with a rifle and scope. Throw in physical exertion, excitement, wind, foliage and a moving target ... that's the challenge/reward/thrill. Sitting in front of a simulator, not the same experience. Not even close.

Some people like target rifle shooting. For me it's just for sighting in a scope. The challenge, reward and excitement aren't there. I've recently go into bow hunting, that's really hard.

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